Domion And Some Questions

posted on August 2nd, 2006, 8:10 pm

Hi, I just love that mod. You see what could have been done better by the game makers.

Ok, I just started with the game and have some points I wanna talk about.

1. Dominion artillery: Ok, its a big gun...and why should I build that ? I tested it on an "easy" enemy, but I cant even destroy a single turret. --°

Logical conclusion: Its no use to fire on bases. Then...on ships ? Hmmm...can the enemy see the countdown field too ? Everytime I try too shoot on a fleet the numbers appear and the ships start flying into my direction.

2. Is there a map with the scimitar implemented ? (Download ?) or is the ship not implemented in the game yet ?

At first thats all I use this thread for later posts.

posted on August 2nd, 2006, 9:09 pm

don't play against the ai they are cheating mofo's, i was playing against lumpy and someone else, and baroon had a art ship, i wiped out all of lumpy's fleet FLEET of sabers so!

posted on August 2nd, 2006, 11:58 pm

Yah Arty is a good ship if you know how to use it. For instance lets say your ally is a fed. He builds a couple of sovies + their special weapon. Flies 1 of them to a big enemy fleet and activates the special weapons Enemies ships arent going anywhere, you just release your payload on them, if you get your shot right only a handful seriously damaged ships will survive...

Next situation, lets say you are fighting the enemy in a narrow passage and your winning. The enemy fleet wants to escape back to its base to regroup, you put an arty shot behind them they wont have time to escape and what would normally be just a victory is now a masacre of his fleet

The easiest way to do some **** is tho, to just distract your enemy so he is looking somewhere else on a map and then fire the arty at some other fleet, he wont see it in time hence they're wiped out

I do agree tho that the arty is kind of useless to use on stations. Except maybe if the enemy has a lot of turrets together and u own 2 arties (puretech avatar ----> 1 arty costs 10 credits ). In a swift move u can wipe out up to 3 turrets at the same time. I still think its a waste of the arty tho, much better to use on fleets plus its a challenge too

Just play more FO over internet, since this is primarily a multiplayer mod and devestate your enemies with arty fire

2. No the scimitar isnt implented yet

BTW: welcome to the forums, hope you'll be active for a long time

Hope u'll be able to use the arty to its full potencial Cause remember: Victory is life!

[Jem Hadar]

posted on August 3rd, 2006, 8:16 am

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thanks for replys.

Today I tested the federation and I think they are VERY powerful, the remore class can crush down even the shields of a starbase and the newton, or was it norway ? just reloads the energy. I destroyed 3 or 4 buildings just with 2 remores, 2 newton and a couple of monsoons before the enemy was able to stop me.

Usually I explore one or two special abillities, they cost too much and /except a few, they cant really do something. The Federation has some good abillities, (shield crush, critical shot and the one of the sovereign)

I nearly know nothing about those of the klingons, but I accidentially destroyed half od my fleet when I activated the Ion Storm for the first tim ^^

Romulan abillities ? The sabotage is good. And ...well usally I dont use much of the special abillities, because they are expensive and dont do THAT much. Some upgrades ok, but the rhienn class with ist multiple shot phasers/torpedos doesnt do much damage. I think the romulan abillities are better to call "nasty" than dangerous.

Dominion. Ok, the cetracel white boost and the reload frigate. The defence cruiser and alle this ships are so much. I cant remember all abillities. Many beams which do more or lesser damage. Is there something good I forgott ?

What do you think ? What are the best Specials.'s of the different races ? Which do you use usually ?

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Another thing which isnt totally clear to me: Every race has its good and bad points: Federations is a well defender and middle thing in all, romulans are good explorers- surprise attacks and something else ? Klingons: Strong ships
And Dominion ? They have the ketracel white synt...is that good or bad ? What are the good things of the dominion ? Are they very strong ? Fast building ? Its not clear to me.

posted on August 3rd, 2006, 11:57 am

They can mass ships like crazy. If you have a high resource map and can defend your minings well enough they are nearly unstoppable

posted on August 3rd, 2006, 6:17 pm

And again the Dominion...start to getting used to it.
After some replays I think the dominion has many good abillities, but its too expensive to explore them all. T_T

Suicide, ketracel white boost, Bomber-Tetrion torpedo, Defender - core blast, Attack cruiser - Fighters- Massive attack..... I think they are all good, but you cant use themm all.

The defender is agood, strong ship which has a very long range.

And the good hyperspace sensor system. ^^



What are you planning for the Borg ? Will the cube be the usual big ship or more in the class of a "super weapon" like the dominon artillery ? Could be interesting. then the cube has its originall size, compared to all other ships. (Like in the movie)
Should be the size of a Fusion cube. ....Well I think it could be difficult to make a shipyard thats big enough. (Or it is build with the construction ship)

posted on August 3rd, 2006, 6:46 pm

it would be nice to see the borg as an incredibly strong race, but with a restriction such as massive structure size or something of the like, but it wouldnt really be possible with the variety in maps and balancing it would be a ***** i guess.

posted on August 3rd, 2006, 7:22 pm

Yea, I know what you mean...the balancing. I think we all agree that the cube is the biggest vessel in the Armada universe (and the strongest ?)

The handicaps of the Borg ? You need maaaaany drones and its expensive. ^^

I would love to see a more realistic cube, not this mini-cube from ArmadaII. That one wasnt much bigger than a sov.

posted on August 3rd, 2006, 10:25 pm

It's an RTS mate. You cant see it from the position of a movie. It has to be playable and balanced. Even in the size of ships. Cube indeed could be bigger but it's not possible to bring them on original size level.

posted on August 3rd, 2006, 11:15 pm

Well if a cube would cost so many credits u could only build 1, that would mean they could make it the size of the real thing (roughly)

I agree Borg should be very powerful tho, but remember there is no crew limitation now, so that cant be the limiting factor lol. I say the dil cost for their ships should be huge

posted on August 4th, 2006, 6:10 am

but then again 8472 had a different "Currency" to the rest of the race's why not the borg?

posted on August 4th, 2006, 7:05 am

The Cube Thing was just an idea ^^ Of course its your mod and you make it your own way.

@Black Baron:

Yea no crew limit, but credits !

[Optec]

posted on August 4th, 2006, 7:29 am

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The Borg will feature booth a new style in gameplay and look. you can't really compare their vessels to the ones of "the others" but we hope to get as close to the feeling seen in the episodes and first contact as possible without throwing away the balancing table ^_^

posted on August 4th, 2006, 9:24 am

Well, what can I say. It seems my favorite race( The Dominion) and second favorite race (The Borg) in Star Trek are both gonna be cool as hell in v3. I really cant wait

[Jem Hadar]

posted on August 4th, 2006, 9:14 pm

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Ok, final day,

as the last remaining group I played the klingons. It makes fun hunting enemy ships with Bop and the simillar looking ship. 16atk and 21 atk very nice for such little bugs ^^ Vorcha 26 and Neg var 42. After the romulan big birdy its the strongest ship isnt it ? But I dont think the klingons become my favos, because they have too much buildings and I cant sort the specials.

Review:
...WHAT !? My beloved dominion has the weakest battle ships ? No ship that reaches 40 atk points ? I'm shocked ! Oh by the way, how much atk has the bug ?
Even the big buds only have about 36, 39 atk.
Ok the artillery roasts them all, but its too hard to make a good hit (Because of that 5 seconds count down)

A last thing: My favorite dominion vessel was the big dreadnaught from "Ultimate Dominion-Mod" This baby looked THAT COOOOOL ! It has this massive and gigantic look. Can you imagine to implement it ? Of course texture remastered to match the look of your mod. Maybe you have to develope "dreadnaught chassi" before you even can build the prototype.

Or, if you dont want to...just add it as map object like the scimitar. ^^