For those who think the original Enterprise is a constellati

posted on December 20th, 2009, 9:08 am

Its not, it is a Constitution class.

Constellation class - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

Constitution class - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

Sorry, but it annoys me when people say the Enterprise was a Constellation.

posted on December 20th, 2009, 10:33 am

That reminds me of an old edition of the "Star Trek Lexikon" I got when I was 8 or 9 years old.
That one too considered the Enterprise to be out of Constellation class while the Ent-A was described as a Constitution 
I guessed it was a typo or translation into german had gone wrong.

posted on December 20th, 2009, 10:14 pm

Augh, people really still get these confused?

It's simple:

NCC-1701 - Constitution Class
NCC-1701-A Constitution Class Refit
NCC-1701-B Excelsior Class
NCC-1701-C Ambassador Class
NCC-1701-D Galaxy Class
NCC-1701-E Sovereign Class
NCC-1701-E refit - Sovereign Class Refit

posted on December 20th, 2009, 10:47 pm

You forgot NX-01-NX Class (no, really, Star Trek: Enterprise had writing that bad.)  Sure was a disappointing series but the ship itself was kind of nice.

posted on December 20th, 2009, 10:52 pm

Yeah, that's...

It should have been Enterprise-class, since the tradition is to name the class after the first vessel of it's type commissioned and named.  And once it was proved to work, and the second one was build, that X should have been removed.  It was no longer experimental.

posted on December 21st, 2009, 12:06 am

Hmm, the reason some people seem to think the original enterprise (NCC-1701) was a Constellation class is that the ship of the Enterprise's class that was seen on screen with the lowest registration number was the USS Constellation (NCC-1017). Silly really.

But the name "Constitution-class" is canon. Mentioned by Picard in 'Relics, TNG'.

posted on December 21st, 2009, 3:39 am

The reason the Constellation has such a low number was because it was an AMT Enterprise model burnt and scorched for the the episode "The Doomsday Machine" and the registry was reorganized, though idk why they didn't just make a new registry number for it..like 1710 or something like that..And as far as the TMP Enterprise refit being called the Enterprise Class well Shane Johnsons "Mr Scott's Guide to the Enterprise" made that one up..it also said that the original Enterprise was launched in 2190 which we all know the Enterprise was launched in 2245 so anything out of MSGTTE should be discounted along with the U.S.S. Tiho becoming the Enterprise-A and the fact that the book says the new Enterprise had transwarp drive when we know it didn't.. Soo except for the general schematics and such nothing in that book is accurate to Star Trek canon..

posted on December 21st, 2009, 10:26 am

That bit about transwarp drive is also due to a misconception... no, not a misconception, more that the definition of transwarp has changed since then.

Back in the time of ST1-6, "Transwarp" was not like we've seen with the Borg. Transwarp was actually a rethink of how to shape the subspace field. It was found that if the field was shaped into a tunnel shape, the ship would go helluva lot faster than a conventional spheroid shape.

This was experimented upon on the USS Defiant (the ship from The Tholian Web, TOS) (though I forget where I read that), and it was found that this "tunnel" could be created by CAREFUL unbalancing of the normal warp drive. This happened by ACCIDENT to the USS Enterprise after its refit, when an imbalance sent it into an uncontrollable "wormhole" (The Motion Picture). This "wormhole" is essentially the transwarp they were talking about.

Starfleet didn't give up on the idea, despite it's apparent danger, and fielded a prototype ship with advanced computers and enhanced energy and warp systems, which should be able to cope with the inherent instability at transwarp speeds. This ship was the USS Excelsior (The Search for Spock).

Although the Transwarp experiments obviously failed (in TNG we're still seeing warp "bubbles"), they did create a much better understanding of warp/subspace physics, allowing greater speeds in conventional warp drives.

All non-canon, from tech manuals and the like, but it fits.

posted on December 21st, 2009, 3:58 pm

Hmm, the reason some people seem to think the original enterprise (NCC-1701) was a Constellation class is that the ship of the Enterprise's class that was seen on screen with the lowest registration number was the USS Constellation (NCC-1017). Silly really.

But the name "Constitution-class" is canon. Mentioned by Picard in 'Relics, TNG'.

I think the reason people get them mixed up is actually a lot simpler than anything with the USS Constellation. They both begin with Const and end with tion, and in between is a vowel then a consonant then a vowel.  They sound very similar, so if someone forgot what class Enterprise was and had remembered there being a constellation class of ships...

posted on December 23rd, 2009, 5:31 pm

Then why would they call the refit a "Constitution class"?

posted on December 24th, 2009, 5:25 am

You forgot NX-01-NX Class (no, really, Star Trek: Enterprise had writing that bad.)  Sure was a disappointing series but the ship itself was kind of nice.

Psshh! People dishing on poor Enterprise! Give it a chance people. It was actualy quite good.

posted on December 24th, 2009, 9:32 am

Im agreeing with the Vowel mixup thing.  If I remember correctly, the stargazer was constellation class am I right?  Completely different ship, similar sounding class name.

posted on December 24th, 2009, 7:58 pm

You forgot NX-01-NX Class (no, really, Star Trek: Enterprise had writing that bad.)  Sure was a disappointing series but the ship itself was kind of nice.

It should have been Enterprise-class, since the tradition is to name the class after the first vessel of it's type commissioned and named.  And once it was proved to work, and the second one was build, that X should have been removed.  It was no longer experimental.

Bad writing or not, that one could be explained... Pre-Federation Earth might not have the same naming scheme as the Federation. Similar to the way they use NX for all ships with no NCC.