Why Do Borg Computers Operate Better At Higher TEmperatures?

posted on December 27th, 2012, 9:37 pm

That's true, also remember than anything "heard" on the bridge of a Federation ship goes through the universal translator first. The Borg actually communicate in that garbled mess of voices that Picard hears from time to time. Ergo, any references to the Borg and such are translations. We're hearing it all filtered into something more human by the translator, basically. If that makes sense...

posted on December 27th, 2012, 11:27 pm

well heat is a form of radiation

no, heat is energy transferred from one body to another, radiation is one way this transfer can happen (alongside conduction and convection)

I doubt Q's problem with the Borg is because they're a hive-mind, probably more about what they actually do when provoked. Q's an asshole, but he's not a sociopath (not that he was concerned during the Borg's intro).

Or that the Borg could screw around with them if exposed to their power enough to figure out how it works.

i disagree, i don't think that the q (or jdl q) would feel very threatened by the borg, the other q don't like interfering with any lower beings (borg or otherwise) and I think jdl q doesn't want his son interfering with the borg because the borg aren't entertaining, and the nature of the hive mind means that any mess junior caused with the borg would require effort to clean up, without any prospect of entertainment.

i always thought it strange how the borg refer to earth being in sector 001..

shouldnt there home planet be the starting sector to measure from?

that does suggest they originate from earth.. or the writers just didnt think very hard that day..

the reason for this is the same reason that the borg put in ridiculous amounts of effort launching repeated attacks on earth, earth has to be the centre of the universe as all the audience is from earth. despite the fact that it strains the story to have everything be about earth.

posted on December 27th, 2012, 11:57 pm

i disagree, i don't think that the q (or jdl q) would feel very threatened by the borg, the other q don't like interfering with any lower beings (borg or otherwise) and I think jdl q doesn't want his son interfering with the borg because the borg aren't entertaining, and the nature of the hive mind means that any mess junior caused with the borg would require effort to clean up, without any prospect of entertainment.

I never said anything about the Q being threatened. They don't care much about 'lesser beings', but everyone has limits on being a dick to others (which may be a Voyager invention, considering TNG). As I said, the Q aren't sociopaths.

Though, I wouldn't be surprised if they were afraid after Voyager flanderized them into merely humans with flashy powers instead of the original demigods of TNG.

posted on December 28th, 2012, 12:21 am

Though, I wouldn't be surprised if they were afraid after Voyager flanderized them into merely humans with flashy powers instead of the original demigods of TNG.

yeah the q should've known better than to appear in voyager, the villain decay on that show was embarrassing.

i think the problem was that they overdid the q, too many stories. they had to expand on the q continuum and make them human/humanoid to allow interaction with the voyager crew. i think voyager shouldn't have had q episodes. they ended up as extreme comic relief, rather than just playful.

posted on December 28th, 2012, 5:31 am

Why Q was even brought into the Voyager series is beyond me.

The single dumbest thing they did to the Borg in Voyager was introducing Species 8472. They essentially neutered the Borg because after species 8472 became at best friends and at worst neutral towards the Federation they greatly reduced the threat of the Borg because now they had their hands full with someone else. That was just silly. At the very least they should have kept 8472 openly hostile towards all life in this universe and then they could have just had a slug out between two superpowers of evil.

posted on December 28th, 2012, 8:23 am

myles, ... thermal radiation a.k.a. Heat... look it up

posted on December 28th, 2012, 12:05 pm

myles, ... thermal radiation a.k.a. Heat... look it up

i don't appreciate your condescending tone, even worse you obviously haven't read the article you just linked to (or maybe it was too complicated for you), so maybe you shouldn't try to be sassy if you don't actually know what you're talking about........................ (ellipses don't make you more intelligent)

i'll make it easy for you and copypaste from the wikipedia article on heat:

In physics and chemistry, heat is energy transferred from one body to another by thermal interactions. The transfer of energy can occur in a variety of ways, among them conduction, radiation, and convection.

thermal radiation is not the same as heat. radiation is just one way energy can transfer between 2 bodies.

to correct your original statement: thermal radiation is a form of radiation.

posted on December 28th, 2012, 2:08 pm

ok, this is funny. If I didn't know what i was talking about, I wouldn't have posted it.

Didn't you read your own link? I'll quote it since it is in the second sentence

In physics and chemistry, heat is energy transferred from one body to another by thermal interactions.[1][2] The transfer of energy can occur in a variety of ways, among them conduction[3], radiation,[4] and convection

and if you go to my link, to the middle of the page to the header: Interchange of energy, the first line states:

Thermal radiation is one of the principle mechanisms of heat transfer.

Meaning if you had a campfire and you didn't had heat as a radiation, you wouldn't feel heat if you put your hand above the flame. Instead you have the put your hand in the fire to actually feel it.

Now you are correct that there are different types of heat transfer but radiation is part of it. Since that makes most heated compounds glow.

So no hard feelings here, but I am not stupid

posted on December 28th, 2012, 5:32 pm

Thermal radiation is one of the principle mechanisms of heat transfer.

Have you even read that sentence you just quoted? at what point does it say that heat is a form of radiation? i do not know what you are seeing when you read that quote. that quote supports my position, not yours.

you are confusing thermal radiation with heat. heat is energy that has been transferred, thermal radiation is one way for that transfer to occur.

Meaning if you had a campfire and you didn't had heat as a radiation, you wouldn't feel heat if you put your hand above the flame. Instead you have the put your hand in the fire to actually feel it.

the insane world you live in must be interesting if it doesn't even have convection. how do you heat your house without convection?

Now you are correct that there are different types of heat transfer but radiation is part of it.

ok, so now you're just taking my side. radiation is one way that energy can be transferred. this is exactly what i have been saying, and why your statement that "heat is a form of radiation" is incorrect.

you have it backwards: heat is not a form of radiation, thermal radiation is a form of heat transfer.

posted on December 28th, 2012, 9:41 pm

you do know that convection is done by fluids, right?

If you have a borg computer that is heated, that is done though thermal radiation (so the computer is the heat source). and If it is surrounded by a flow of space,which is damn cold, then you have thermal radiation that gets cooled down. Unless, the borgcomputer is filled with liquid. But then, why would a borg use up space on a ship for coolant when they have space to cool heated parts of the ship? sounds inefficient.

that was the point I was making. the heat of the computer is thermal radiation. That thermal radiation creates electromagnetic radiation, but that is something else and that is indeed very low.

so i am not the one being all sassy about it

posted on December 28th, 2012, 11:47 pm

you do know that convection is done by fluids, right?

i'm gonna guess that you read the first few lines of the wikipedia article on convection, but didn't read it very thoroughly, and didn't realise that fluid doesn't just mean liquid, fluid also includes gasses (seriously, look that one up, gasses are fluids, even if common parlance equates fluid with liquid).

and If it is surrounded by a flow of space,which is damn cold, then you have thermal radiation that gets cooled down.

space does not flow. space is not something that can flow. space (a vacuum) is the absence of matter. a vacuum wouldn't promote cooling it would do the opposite. thermos flasks (also called vacuum flasks) are comprised of two flasks separated by a vacuum, precisely because convection and conduction are stopped by a vacuum. that only leaves radiation, which is a very inefficient way of cooling something. you don't cool something by exposing it to a vacuum.

i'm getting the impression that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so i'm done.