Twice The Fun

posted on December 31st, 2011, 9:42 pm

But remembering back to past posts and usefulness of the remore, the Devs seemed to have come up with a great solution. First new yard. Second a convenient way to get the remore into action. Third, getting the remore into action much earlier than eraudi. So, for online players, I'm guessing you guys will have a lot more games with the ship in play. And finally, fourth, since support ships are going to be more versatile now, we better all prepare for it.

Remore Rush Spam!

posted on December 31st, 2011, 11:08 pm

Section 31 would be really cool to play, but they don't exist (officially). Highly unlikely that they would come out of the shadows long enough to build a giant star yard and dozens of ships in one sector. More likely to be hiding in a nebula, making normal, stock looking ships into hidum seekums.

I like SFI, they actually might exist on an SF budget somewhere, and be more likely to utilize a fleetyard somewhere.

posted on January 1st, 2012, 8:58 pm

Section 31 can be described as federation playing dirty, as federation playing with an ace up their sleeves.

While possibly interesting i think those possible dirty tactics as standard would give this avatar a significant advantage over other factions. Easiest example would be if some basic vessels got access to cloaks. Heavy Federation shields and cloaks will tip the balance in favor of  the S31 avatar.

IMO the dirty tactics etc should only be available as mixed tech.

Star Fleet Intelligence can be interesting since it'll open up less conventional tactics while not going semi-mixed tech like a Section 31 avatar.

But all the discussion about a possible 3rd avatar are best left for now until more news is released about the upcoming version.

[Tyler]

posted on January 1st, 2012, 9:13 pm

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Starfleet Intel is supposedly already planned as a future avatar, according to the guide (been there for quite a while actually). It says 4th avatar, either the page missed a number or they're really planning ahead.

posted on January 1st, 2012, 9:40 pm

Starfleet Intel is supposedly already planned as a future avatar, according to the guide (been there for quite a while actually). It says 4th avatar, either the page missed a number or they're really planning ahead.

Until released i tend to consider it a "possible" third avatar. As with advertisement until finalized things like that as subject to change without prior notification. 

posted on January 2nd, 2012, 1:58 pm

Well, Sec 31 sound interesting at first, but personally: They are only valid in some special cases. Do a trick and retreat. ButI dont think, that they could last late-game. As for now, Mayson and Risner can do that. So Sec 31 would in my eyes only be a... special station like the intel-center for the rommies. You can research 3 techs there and build 2 ships there (like a yard with science within). Thats it.

I would like to see something like that:
- Mayson: Good early game without Warp-ins
- Risner: Good late game, without warp-ins
- Third avatar: Warp-ins but no avatar-bonus like mayson or risner. More like a spamming-avatar with good economy that is similar to the klingons in a way.

posted on January 2nd, 2012, 8:35 pm

Ugh. We don't need a spammy Fed with super warp-in; with their high defensive values and relatively good speed, that avatar would be nigh unbeatable in competent hands.

A support- or ability-based avatar seems fine to me, though. Certainly plenty of options when it comes to the balancing stage of development, so I can't predict which way the Devs would take the concept.

posted on January 3rd, 2012, 5:27 pm

I read the first 10 posts 
1) but will the new yard remplace the old advanced tech one? or is it just to devide the feds a bit more
2) why is the saber in both yards.
3) PLEASE put the Miranda II in!
great job guys!

posted on January 3rd, 2012, 6:43 pm

@grand admiral

1) eraudi yard changes havn't been mentioned, so best guess is eraudi yard is roughly the same. feds will have 3 yards afaik
2) its a ship that both yards can make, something general that doesn't need a lot of special parts/equipment. and so that no matter which yard you choose you will always have a basic ship to make. in the next patch the monsoon will tank for the sabre so the sabre is gonna be far more useful.
3) somehow i don't see that happening, its a mixed tech ship and i think it fits lovely in it's current role.

posted on January 3rd, 2012, 6:59 pm

I don't see Section 31 being its own avatar; a fleet-ops style conflict really isn't part of their modus operandi. They're more likely to co-opt a field officer for their dirty work (in-game this can perhaps be seen as a building or research mutually exclusive with more "straightforward" Starfleet protocols).

Looking forward to seeing the redos.

posted on January 25th, 2012, 5:38 am

So I read through this newspost when it first appeared, and I don't remember seeing this question being asked:

Since the Cassiopeia shipyard looks like the Mixed-tech shipyard, does that mean that 1) The mixed-tech is being removed for the time being? or 2) The mixed-tech is getting a new shipyard to replace this one since it's being given to the support ships?

posted on January 25th, 2012, 8:04 am

Mixed-Tech will get a major rework, too, and no longer requires a dedicated yard. The system will work differently

posted on January 25th, 2012, 1:21 pm

And there was much rejoicing.

Will it improve the stats of the ship you already have available, perchance?

posted on January 25th, 2012, 1:41 pm

Mixed-Tech will get a major rework, too, and no longer requires a dedicated yard. The system will work differently

Will there be all new ships?

posted on January 25th, 2012, 6:10 pm

Hopefully Miranda IIs will become more generally available then!