New Forum Fight

posted on March 13th, 2005, 11:11 pm

Weather you choose to accept it or not it is coming, other members see it aswell, its all well and good asking people to stop, we don't try and make the forum an unpleasent place to be, its just a conflict of personalitys and views and this can not be helped. But what do you think is causing these forum fights?

Is it:

• The Lack Of The Fleet Operations Team
• No Moderating Of Posts/Topics/Members
• Polatics
• The Lack Of News about Version 3 and people are just subconsialy looking for a fight for somthing to do?

I personal think its all of the above, i know that the Fo Devs have a life of there own and can't be on the forums 24/7 but even if they just posted in say one topic a day just to let people know that they are here would save them a lot of work in moderation when they get back on track. If they don't have the time or rescoures to Moderate the forums then apoint somone who can, all active members must agree with me here theres a whole topic on it. The last forum fight was mostly about clan and real life polatics and peoples views and intrests clash here and it is a breeding ground for fighting, i would have the pol topic closed (like doca did the first one) and ban it from all aspects of the forum (including signetures and avtras) i would also restrict all clans to a three stikes and your out system on the forums, feel free to post and recurit but as soon as you start a forum fight strike one etc untill you clan is banned from recuritng etc on the fo board. About the news again all they need to do is post a topic saying that version 3 will be suspended untill further notice due to the moderators real life problems.

Now i know not all of you will agree with me here, and i know ewm is going to kick up a stink about everything i have just said, but for those of you who want evidence of what i have just said here is what i spent 10 minuets doing earler, i sent this in a pm to both ewm and preator:

Members can see the fights are starting up again:

Doca pls close this threat. same old flame war going on here

-[TD]Roach Posted on Mar 13 2005, 08:08 PM

This is not a clan flame war topic, and none ever should, keep it somewhere else or go to the SGN Forums and flame each other there.

ON TOPIC:

Have you got any new drivers lately? That could be a problem. Or a bad virus?

This post has been edited by USS Legacy on Mar 12 2005, 08:47 PM
- USS Legacy
Posted: Mar 12 2005, 08:46 PM

Members are joining rlf and proberly rfo to help support there side;

Hey, defiant i want to join rlf, finaly found my a2 cd and can start kicking ass in fleet ops again.
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cts006
Posted on Mar 12 2005, 10:25 PM

I have tried to get all of the main problems of the forum fight (me, ewm, preator, members of rfo) to meet up but all have turned the offer down (i asked ewm to ask rfo).

I would also like to say thank you to rfo, you have not played a role in the current forum fight hence i have not asked you directly, i asked ewm if he would like to invite you along.

posted on March 13th, 2005, 11:45 pm

o no not a nuther one of thes the last one was deleeted thes kinda of post start flaming fites just let it go NieKnight.

we have ben doing realy well latly plese pleas dont rock the bout NieKnight.

the forum is doing well latly to evry ones cretit.

posted on March 14th, 2005, 12:04 am

All of the above. Mostly is lacking of news and team doesn't have enough time for moderating.

posted on March 14th, 2005, 12:07 am

so i'm the only one ewm, atleast i am trying to stop it, instead of putting it under the rug where it will just build up, i think we need to maybe send a letter to Doca, i can get his addreass if need be (i have had it befor as i sent him or tried tosend him an xmas card)

posted on March 14th, 2005, 12:26 am

thare is no problom i see.

i think makeing post like this give a place for pepal to flam.

as long as pepal keep thare thare disagremants out of the forum we are doing good.

and post about forum fite scare pepal a whay. we shood conistrate on the fleetops mon and not what uther pepal are doing so much.

[Anonymous]

posted on March 14th, 2005, 4:16 am

Last edited by Anonymous on March 14th, 2005, 4:33 am, edited 1 time in total.

All of the above, I'm getting depressed dealing with the flame war all the time, then my stuiped mistake of getting involved in it.

Here's my proposal,

Open a topic to elect a moderator, vote only, then even without DOC giving them power, all will agree to abide by the member appointed moderator. The moderator will be fair in all judgement, I'm sure most members would, and if seen fit, DOC, when he comes on, could offically promote the member to moderator status.

Slightly modified from what NieKnight said.

Would all agree with this?

By the way, I sent a message to DOC over the German forum a while ago, no response...

posted on March 14th, 2005, 4:41 am

Believe it or not a topic to select a moderator would inevitabley lead to more fighting.

posted on March 14th, 2005, 4:45 am

Sadly yes, people just can't act civil anymore. I'm thinking of composing several emails that I'll send to Optec and DOC and Detektor along all possible channels, improve the chance of it being noticed. I'm DOC checks his emails/messenger/messages/whatever else sometime.

posted on March 14th, 2005, 4:48 am

I think a molotov cocktail will send the same message, unless the message burns too.

posted on March 14th, 2005, 5:46 am

i think still think we dont need a moniter we just need to treet echuther with respect on the forum what you do off the forum is your business.

posted on March 14th, 2005, 10:28 am

I agree with all above, I also agree with Legacies proposal but everyone would have to agree to that first

posted on March 14th, 2005, 11:51 am

And that won't be easy...

posted on March 14th, 2005, 12:34 pm

Sadly yes, people just can't act civil anymore. I'm thinking of composing several emails that I'll send to Optec and DOC and Detektor along all possible channels, improve the chance of it being noticed. I'm DOC checks his emails/messenger/messages/whatever else sometime.

its ok, don't spam his email inbox etc, he will just ignor them, i have his addreass and with the goahead of other members i will send a letter to Doca it will have a lot more impact if he think that members are that despreat to send a letter by air mail all the way to Germany to do this.

posted on March 14th, 2005, 1:16 pm

U have my goahead

[ewm90]

posted on March 14th, 2005, 3:10 pm

Last edited by ewm90 on March 14th, 2005, 3:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

- NieKnight
polatics and peoples views and intrests clash here and it is a breeding ground for fighting,

- ewm90
the pepal how have ben posting in it are mucher anuff to sperate debate from a fite and the political thred has ben going realy well.

http://forum.fleetops.net/index.php?act=boardrules
2. Flaming - Attacking someone due to an opinion or expressed views in a post. Just don't do it. If someone does something silly, maybe post a topic in the wrong forum, screaming and shouting at them is no good. If you do that we'll either delete or edit your post. Instead, let them know the error and guide them into the right action. Obviously if someone's just being an asshole we'll deal with it. Remember, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Admins, global moderators and moderators will decide a punishment if any for flaming. The rule over whose decision is more important (Section 3) still applies here. Team Members, moderators, global moderators and Admins are expected to behave sensibly with relation to flaming. If you think one of the above groups (mentioned in the previous sentence) is participating in flaming, please contact an admin directly

please dont take ation in to your own hand it crates more problom if you have a problom with some one flaming pleaes use the Report bution and leev it at that.

keeping post like this going crats more probloms than it solves. i think in the last 3 treads maby it was 4 i have lost track have gotin the idea all ready i think you whay over doing it. and this has be come mager spaming 3-4 topics all about the same thing that wastfull. the uther topics wher deteeded or locked be cuss the fo teem did not wont tham to continuwe. i think what to much inergy is put in to waching uther pepal but pepal dont put a nuff energy in to waching tham selves.