The Spam Poll

posted on September 28th, 2004, 8:44 pm

Ok i recently did a poll asking if the spam on the fo forum was to much and if somthing should be done about it, serveal people have said yes they think they have (at a random guess cario and ST47 said no), i proposed this to doca

I think the spamming in the forums has gone on long enough, and i know a few people who agree with me, we have discussed this many times in chat, what we ask is can there be some offical forum rules, and some more moderators to enforce them as we know you and optec do not have enough time , basicly on the fo clan site we introduced somthing called the Offical Acts 2004 basicly, they where a set of rules there was the no spamming act, the no flaming act and the no useless topic acts.

these where enforced with a warn system each time one of the act was broken the warn level would go up by 10% and it would take 1 month for the WL to go back down again (ie if they reached 20% in one day one month later it would be 10%) there was different punishmesnt for certain levels:

    * 30% = 1 day ban
    * 50% = 1 weekban
    * 70% =1 month ban
    * 100% = pernament ban along with an IP ban


when you reached one of these punishmens you would have a one week moderated postings (you know when a moderator has to appove a post), if another warn level was reached in this time a second week would be introduced.

I really do think the spamming on the forums is getting out of control and somthing really does need to be done about it, i thank you for your time and i will talk to you another time.

i also gave him this option as a choice he may consider:

These are admitedly from another forum i am on, and it works very well:

Section 1 - Registration.

1. Users with usernames containing offensive words, phrases or other, will be notified of this and have their account suspended or deleted.
2. Admins reserve the right to prevent anyone from registering or gaining access to the forums, for any reason.
3. We also reserve the right to check either at registration time or later on that you registered with a valid email. If you failed/fail to register with a valid email we reserve the right to remove your access to the forums.

Section 2 - Conduct.

1. Spam is not allowed. (Definition is at bottom)
2. Flaming is not allowed (definition is at bottom)
3. Porn is not allowed on the forums (this also includes links to)
4. Warez is not allowed on the forums (this also includes links to)
5. Racist comments or remarks are not allowed in the forums (this also extends to pms)
6. Discriminating against people due to their sex, race, religion, ethnic background, nationality, sexuality or any other reason an admin deems unacceptable is not tolerated.
7. You are allowed to express your opinions on this board as long your opinion does not violate any of the forum rules, in which case please refrain from publicising your opinion on the forums (this includes pms)
8. Treat people with respect.
9. Do not go out of your way to annoy anyone. Especially Admins and moderators.
10. Do not make Admins or moderators life harder.
11. Welcome new members to the boards. Respect any opinion they have about BG, the forums, and the site.
12. If you are a long-standing member, behave like one. Lead by example and assist other newer members rather then attacking them. We look upon our veteran members to use this opportunity to teach the newer members the appropriate way to use these message boards
13. No excessive Profanity. While profanity, when used properly, is an effective way of conveying emotion and/or thoughts, when abused it can be detrimental and offensive. Please keep in mind that we do have young people browsing these forums
14. No necro-posting without an extremely good reason. We do not want to see year old topics surface again, without good cause. Please restrain yourselves from necro-posting.
15. Advocating cheating. Recently, people have started advocating cheating and exploiting on these forums. We will take a harsh line on those who try to ruin the game for others.

Section 3 - Moderators and Admins

1. Moderators have the power to close, censor and/or delete any topic they feel necessary to do so.
2. Moderators have the power to edit your posts.
3. Global moderators have all the powers of moderators.
4. Global moderators have moderation power in every forum
5. Global moderator's decisions override any made by moderators.
6. Moderators can't overrule a global moderator’s decision.
7. Admins have all the power of global moderators.
8. Admins can remove any privilege you have on the forums (pms, posting, etc)
9. Admins' decisions override those of global moderators.
10. Any decision an admin makes can only be changed by another admin.
11. Admins have the power to change these rules on the go.
12. An Admins word is final. Arguing with an admin over a decision will probably get you a punishment decided by the Admins discretion. If you already have a punishment, then your punishment will likely be extended or modified
13. Admins, global moderators and moderators are expected to behave more responsibly than normal members.

Section 4 - Conclusion

1. These rules do not cover everything, just all we can think off at the current time.
2. As stated above Admins can alter these rules at any time. It is your responsibility to keep up to date on the rules.
3. By registering on the forums, you agree to the rules set here, present and future.
4. IRC Rules and conduct are decided solely by those who have op status or over. Any decision decided by a higher level person on IRC can't be overruled by you if you are on a lower status level.

Section 5 - Definitions

1. Spamming - Spamming is characterised by the initiation of threads or posts that contribute nothing to a forum, be it off topic or on topic. Examples include: empty posts, posts with few words that have no relation to the current thread or discussion and those posts that state they are spam, either to annoy or increase a member's post count. Spamming is also characterised by posts which have no relation to the original post in the topic, regardless of other points made in the topic. PM's or new topics are better suited for this, rather than taking a post OT. Whether a post or topic is spam or not is decided by a moderator, global moderator or admin. The rule over whose decision is more important (Section 3) still applies here.
2. Flaming - Attacking someone due to an opinion or expressed views in a post. Just don't do it. If someone does something silly, maybe post a topic in the wrong forum, screaming and shouting at them is no good. If you do that we'll either delete or edit your post. Instead, let them know the error and guide them into the right action. Obviously if someone's just being an asshole we'll deal with it. Remember, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Admins, global moderators and moderators will decide a punishment if any for flaming. The rule over whose decision is more important (Section 3) still applies here. Team Members, moderators, global moderators and Admins are expected to behave sensibly with relation to flaming. If you think one of the above groups (mentioned in the previous sentence) is participating in flaming, please contact an admin directly

Just replace BG with fleet ops

posted on September 28th, 2004, 8:46 pm

I completely agree with every word of this

posted on September 28th, 2004, 8:47 pm

I agree to the presented terms

posted on September 28th, 2004, 8:53 pm

right so other people agree with me, you are all welcome to express you views here, even the fecking spammers.

posted on September 28th, 2004, 8:54 pm

hey dude relax, take a load off, are you trying to get into law school? or have you just finaly snapped?

posted on September 28th, 2004, 8:55 pm

snapped, and hate spam, i go on many forums and they have really crakced down on spammers, and many forums are now spam free, i just don't see why this one should be different, but then again i don't see why this one shpould still be invision 1.3 and not invision 2.0

posted on September 28th, 2004, 8:57 pm

remember what happend when u switched to ipb 2.0, it crashed in under 2 days. and that is serisuly taking it that far, to the point taht u snapped and actuly did all that.

posted on September 28th, 2004, 8:58 pm

it was still beta then, its now the stable version.

posted on September 28th, 2004, 9:06 pm

sounds good to me i will quick add the rules now

posted on September 28th, 2004, 9:13 pm

ok, done now, take a look in the header of the forum next to the "home" link right under the fleet operations logo. any copy errors or improvement ideas (formatting will follow later) in this topic pls.

DOCa Cola

[NieKnight]

posted on September 28th, 2004, 9:56 pm

Last edited by NieKnight on September 28th, 2004, 10:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.

thank you doca!

[edit] how will these be inforced, what are the punishments, and who will give them out? [/edit]

[RFO Cairo1]

posted on September 28th, 2004, 10:52 pm

Last edited by RFO Cairo1 on September 28th, 2004, 11:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.

yah fine ( disgrunded cuz you knew it was me ) ho and geez dont you think that is alittle harsh? not all most I can under stand but dont you think that the moddern triki is polite. I mean common doesant startrek show that you shoodent discrimanate aginst others weather they are white black woman man a homosexual or evint Klingon well that is me maby not you and actualy theise rules alot like the ones that were on the clan site? I can under stand most of it but not all and if i wanted to I could have cheated to change the vote their are 2 other accounts i know how to get into a freinds and my brothers si it could have been 4 to no, but that is not me I may be a romulan but I dont cheet (too often anny way)

posted on September 28th, 2004, 10:54 pm

not really hard to guess, you and st47 are the only people who spam the site silly, and you where the only ones who did not like th offical acts on forpg so again its not really hard to guess!

posted on September 28th, 2004, 11:05 pm

I modded my post so you better check it out.

posted on September 28th, 2004, 11:10 pm

yah fine ( disgrunded cuz you knew it was me ) ho and geez dont you think that is alittle harsh? not all most I can under stand but dont you think that the moddern triki is polite. I mean common doesant startrek show that you shoodent discrimanate aginst others weather they are white black woman man a homosexual or evint Klingon well that is me maby not you and actualy theise rules alot like the ones that were on the clan site? I can under stand most of it but not all and if i wanted to I could have cheated to change the vote their are 2 other accounts i know how to get into a freinds and my brothers si it could have been 4 to no, but that is not me I may be a romulan but I dont cheet (too often anny way)

wtf u on about, we are discrmianating you coz you are romulan?

first i think i had better point out sorry to brake this to you but romulans are not real, your just plain old boring human, no i don' think i am being harsh, i asked you to stop weeks ago and you refused so now there are rules live with them!