Why are the borg still around

posted on December 8th, 2010, 10:02 pm

Ok I have been watching the TNG series again and their was that episode where they found a crashed borg ship and they found a wounded borg, and they found a way to destroy the entire collective with a paradox thingy. So my question, why didn't they try that again, like in Voyager, wouldn't that have saved so much time?

posted on December 8th, 2010, 10:04 pm

The Federation (or with regards to that episode Picard) does not believe in genocide.

posted on December 8th, 2010, 10:08 pm

You can blame Geordi and the others for it. Picard was quite happy to go along with it until they convinced him to get to know Hugh. If they didn't, he wouldn't have seen it as genocide.

For Voyager; they were idiots and it never really came up.

posted on December 8th, 2010, 10:11 pm

Alright I was just wondering because you would think that some guys in Section 31 would be like hey lets try this

posted on December 8th, 2010, 10:13 pm

S31 would need an opportunity to do it, requiring a drone still connected to the collective. It's not easy to get access to one.

posted on December 8th, 2010, 10:16 pm

Maybe but i mean just like a probe flying around, disable it and beam a drone aboard and the send it back and bang borg are dead

posted on December 8th, 2010, 10:57 pm

S31 would need an opportunity to do it, requiring a drone still connected to the collective. It's not easy to get access to one.

One day in section 31...

"U.S.S. Voyager returned from the Delta quadrant. They have an ex-borg-drone aboard which could practically re-enter the collective any time. Shall we give that... what was its name? Seven of nine? Shall we give "her" a new "assignment"?"

posted on December 8th, 2010, 11:13 pm

Yes, because kidnapping one of Janeway's personal slaves for 're-assignment' is such an easy task... would you want that murder-loving psychopath after your hide?

I said 'not easy' and 'opportunity required', not that it couldn't happen.

posted on December 8th, 2010, 11:16 pm

Yes, because kidnapping one of Janeway's personal slaves for 're-assignment' is such an easy task... would you want that murder-loving psychopath after your hide?

I think Janeway was genetically engineered by S31 to be that way in the first place. To punish honest and loyal captains like Picard with her being an admiral (as if obeying Nechayev wasn't bad enough).

posted on December 9th, 2010, 8:38 am

Why are the Borg still around you ask? Because even If  every  Borg, but one was destroyed.  Due to the Borgs Directive it would Infect/ Assimulate all those who it came in  contact with  and rebuild its Collective . As for the Sec. 31 kidnapping a drone from a probe  and  Tampering to make it a "Typhoid Mary " , most likely  would not work. Even after Hugh returned fromthe Enterprise and the chaos  that ensued because of it.  The collective  sealed off those  members whom were Infected with  the "Virus" . Hugh  said the the crew  either went  mad and were destroyed or the  Queen  reestablished  the collectives  Dominance over all  in the collective.Those " Damaged units" were  Destroyed and  broken down for  their components  and the biological material destroyed.  This reasoning Is pulled from  the episode that had the  TNG story arc when Lore  kidnapped Data .  In additionall  info  is  from  the  Voyager  series  episode  where 7of 9  refinds  those  Borg  drones who she crashed  with on a remote planet . while  there she had to set up a mini collective to stabilize those  other drones with her .

[snu]

posted on December 9th, 2010, 9:26 am

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honestly, i dont think such a virus would have been successful even if they had released it... when hugh went back to the borg he ended up sending his cube into disarray (for an entirely different reason) which caused the collective to simply disconnect it.  regardless, when hugh rejoined the collective, they received his memories of the possibility of the virus, and no doubt adapted to such an attack (in fact i seem to remember them saying something about that in the show).

there was a similar kind of virus thing in one voyager ep, 'unimatrix zero', and we saw the lengths to which the collective would go to prevent a spread (destroying cubes when just a few individuals were affected)... also, they were pretty quick to adapt to the virus on the fly.

also, i wonder if the collective could do a 'reboot' when they realized that this program was consuming too many resources...

posted on December 9th, 2010, 12:45 pm

the collective used norton antivirus when the funny shape virus was suggested. Afterwards the queen probably upgraded to something better

posted on December 10th, 2010, 3:58 am

Yea that is what i figured but what about the virus that old lady Janeway infected the collective with?

posted on December 10th, 2010, 6:05 pm

Yea that is what i figured but what about the virus that old lady Janeway infected the collective with?

HIV?