borg Ai and cubes

posted on March 13th, 2012, 11:57 pm

Why dont the AI borg build any cubes. I have game set to hard and they were merc and i even gave them alot of time to build a cube and still never saw 1.  :borg: resistance isnt futile without cubes.

posted on March 14th, 2012, 12:21 am

Which setting are you using? If you use unlimited resources, the AI will not build many classes of units

posted on March 14th, 2012, 12:57 am

Try the resurces configuration as the Dominus said.

Cubes are almost indestructibles.  Like the movie, in Fleet Operations you need a fleet to destroy 1 Cube. I love it.

I love Cubes 

Resistance is futile 

posted on March 14th, 2012, 1:31 am

It's not related to resources, it's because the AI has a set number of each ship that it will build.  For example, it might have 5 scubes.  If one scube dies, it will try to restore that number to 5 instead of building bigger stuff.  The AI won't build a cube until it has a massive armada of other ships, and sometimes not even then.

posted on March 14th, 2012, 1:37 am

Yes, that's correct, but infinite resources will screw the AI up and has always done so .

posted on March 14th, 2012, 4:50 am

I will never use infinite resource = no fun where is the challenge, i usually do normal sometimes double. so the key would be to build a really really big map and just wait for slaughter fest. 

posted on March 14th, 2012, 3:55 pm

If the ai spammed cubes you would NEVER be able to beat them all unless you were cheating.

The ai has built a cube in the past i think if i remember correctly but it doesnt spam them like the other units.

posted on March 15th, 2012, 12:59 am

Well i dont want them to sent a fleet at me id crap my pants but a couple would be nice in a long ai stomp to get the juices flowing. The only reason i asked is cause i was discussing the difficulty of merc ai with someone else (too lazy to go look who) and the only reason i never infcluded borg is because with out the diamonds and cubes they arent a viable threat.

I just wanted to know if there was a fix or something to actually see a cube.

posted on March 15th, 2012, 1:10 am

Yes. Without cubes and diamonds at the end, borg aren't really a problem.

You can play the following game:

Infinite Resources
Build Cost 0
Build Time 0

You can build any ship in about 2 seconds. Stations cost nothing. And you build for eternity anything you want.

Even here, borg only build spheres and pyramids. You don't get anything else. You could try those setting in a long long game though. Play them for maybe 1 30 min. I played a 40 min game or so, and just let them spam scubas adaptors etc to high heaven. But then I got bored.

Borg AI does not build cubes. In one patch I remember they did... in infinite resources and in Merc state. Not sure why that changed. I don't remember what dev comments about this were in the past... I.e. if there was a way to change it in future. But in any case.

No cubes or Diamonds.

It depends who you play as. But I would say Romulan AI is the hardest. As borg, Klingons are absolutely no threat. Most factions have a problem facing Romulan quick cloak, fast warbirds, and staryard numbers, as well as serkas in particular (at least AI serkas get me annoyed).

posted on March 15th, 2012, 1:17 am

Yea the serkas make me wanna RAGE quit they are so annoying, and then you chase after them to get rid of them first and in later game situations were there are a lot of warbirds it usually leads to you loosing a few ships here and there. But yea between the romulans cloaking and the klingon spam they are def the hardest to beat on merc.

[Anonymous]

posted on March 15th, 2012, 3:25 am

Last edited by Anonymous on March 15th, 2012, 3:27 am, edited 1 time in total.

The ai myth of spamming cubes is actuly possible, but  you must follow th e following steps.

1 set your Games settings to 'hard'....

Go to options, game options, and set your game options to Hard, this will make stuff INSANELY HARD,

2. Start a game with Defalt settings, No max resources, no build time mods, no build cost mods and a mercyless Borgy ai

3. try not to die as you survive wave after wave of ships, and if your worthy, you will be rewarded with being overrun by cubes and diamonds.

posted on March 15th, 2012, 3:46 am

oh right right right

i can see sliding all the ai bars to the far hard side instead of easy would work.

well there we go.

with ai build cost and ai build time to zero... makes sense

but how would you at all ever survive anything

cheating and giving yourself 10000 10000 but still.

anyways, getting an actual game in with borg mercy without that might still be something to try and work out if possible by devs.

posted on March 15th, 2012, 5:06 am

and if your worthy, you will be rewarded with being overrun by cubes and diamonds.

Love it

def gonna try, hope im worthy

posted on March 15th, 2012, 7:04 am

Hm, tried your settings Crisis.

Turtled myself up, went to bed. This morning i couldn't see a single cube out, neither was there anything higher than a sphere.
No diamond, no cube.

Is it maybe not working on every map, or is my AI just plain stupid?

posted on March 15th, 2012, 3:01 pm

well the ai is plain stupid thats a given. but yea idk which map you played on but i do now that ai dont play the same on evey map. and actually on some maps the ai play better on one side and not the other is really weird.