Borg Sheilding

posted on July 5th, 2009, 11:55 pm

The Borg use Shields. Vessels like the Shere use them, but Cubes and the like normally only put them around special sections (like the Central Plexus). The Tactical Cube also has a type of Shield (Regenerative, I think).

posted on July 5th, 2009, 11:58 pm

in First contact, the sphere did not have shields, nor in Endgame(VOY)

posted on July 6th, 2009, 12:09 am

in First contact, the sphere did not have shields, nor in Endgame(VOY)

The shields of the Enterprise were down too during the time travel, that´s how the borg got on board. In Endgame they had just passed a transwarp tube, so that could be an explanation for no shields.

We have to assume that the borg must have some sort of shielding, but i think it´s more like an adaptive and very strong structural integrity field. Any ship has such a field to keep it from falling apart during high velocities. Also borg ships must have the equivalent of a deflector, to keep space particles and such from ripping their ships apart.

Therefore i think that the borg ingame have shields, which explains the tremendous hull strength their vessels have. The only difference is that their shields do not surround their vessels and are not calculated as being different from their hull.

posted on July 6th, 2009, 12:10 am

Not in Endgame, but there have been times when Borg ships had them. They had to disable them before they could beam out from a Sphere. All Spheres are likely a different configuration from the rest (like the ones in game).

Most of their ships use some kind of defence to keep Transporters out (unless the aliens are classed as 'no threat' still), even though a good number don't do it with the same 'Shields' as most use.

posted on July 6th, 2009, 12:16 am

Or, they never had shields in the first place.  It doesn't really matter.  It is obvious that if the borg were balanced to cannon standards, they would be un beatable. And I assum that unless they said their shields were down, there were no shields in the first place.  

I don't think we have to assume anything.  We saw no shields, they said nothing about shields, I think it is logical that there are none.

Oh, And if they did say they had them, Then they did, all I mean is that we do not need to assume anything.

posted on July 6th, 2009, 12:20 am

They sabotaged the Shield Generators aboard a Borg ship in order to beam out. Not like I'd want it in the game anyway, I find the Borg annoying enough as it is.

posted on July 6th, 2009, 12:22 am

Agreed Tyler.

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posted on July 6th, 2009, 12:24 am

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There's shielding inside the cube like arround the central plexas. But I dont think they have any arround the ship. Besides, why do you want shields for the Borg? It's not like there's any chance that your ship will be taken. Plus I like how the Borg just transport without the hole shield thing getting in the way

posted on July 6th, 2009, 8:17 am

for the adaptoive shield, what if the borg get a passive ability "adaption" which lowers the damage, the longer the fight lasts. it would represent their adaptive nature and make hit&run tactics more useful(the beginning defense had to be lowered)

posted on July 6th, 2009, 9:29 am

There's shielding inside the cube like arround the central plexas. But I dont think they have any arround the ship. Besides, why do you want shields for the Borg? It's not like there's any chance that your ship will be taken. Plus I like how the Borg just transport without the hole shield thing getting in the way

I mentioned the ones around the Plexus, but smaller ships have been known to use proper ones (most likely depending on the ships actual intended use). You can transport through your own shields in both FO and regular A2.

posted on July 6th, 2009, 3:50 pm

If certain configurations of Borg ships do indeed have shields, then this could be shown in-game by allowing the player to have the choice of whether theirs has a shield by placing 1 or more Shield Modules...

Shield Module:  Adds a protective energy shield around the hull of the ship.  Multiple modules increases shield strength and shield regeneration rate.

Generally the advantage would be the shield itself, adding an extra layer of protection, but the module would not change the ship in any other way than simply adding the shield.  It would also use one or more module slots, allowing less of the other modules, and costs and build rate can be set at whatever is necessary for the ship to balance.  Maybe even limited the module to the SCube and Sphere or some other combination of ships.

posted on July 6th, 2009, 6:35 pm

Yes, and did you see those shields Fralo? I mean, we don't see any ECM being deployed for any ship really, but they exist too

Exactly Adm. 

Hey, now really, the Borg ship was not giving off flashes or glowing like other shields on Romulan and Federation ships, but it was completely absorbing weapons fire, something armor cannot do. Obviously to me, the Borg vessels have shields, but you do not see them. Plus, the structural field would not be able to absorb weapons fire, so some very close to hull shields of some sort must be there. However, the Borg seem to not constantly have their shields up until they know how to adapt to the shots, or just don't necessarily need them on all the time. 

posted on July 6th, 2009, 6:39 pm

And why wouldn't it be able to? I can think of plenty of materials that can dissipate lasers or EM spectrum weapons in the real world, and Star Trek writers seem good at inventing new elements, so I see no reason why not. Either way, the point is, if Borg ship shields exist, we don't see them--hence FO is perfect, because we don't see them either.

posted on July 7th, 2009, 3:18 am

Lasers yes, but phasers are a combination of both a laser and particle accelerator weapon, making it extremely powerful. Maybe solid energy weapons, but defiantly not photon torpedoes. Plus, why would the weapons sometimes damage the Borg ships and others do nothing? It would make more sense there is some form of shielding than just a structural field. Maybe give the Borg weak shields is what I think. 

posted on July 7th, 2009, 3:26 am

The Borg have often presented themselves with the ability to transport through the shields and it's true we never see it in the shows so the way it works in fleetops is, well... perfect! Besides you'll adapt