The Heck out of Dodge!

posted on March 16th, 2010, 4:09 am

so simple. 

fail again
YouTube - UC Berkeley Starcraft Class Lecture 1

i didn't like those lectures but the point is a lot of ppl put a lot of thinking into figuring out sc. its 5am and ive almost finished my report so i dont really care much about anything right now. think what u want, play what u want. gn.

posted on March 16th, 2010, 6:20 pm

so simple. 

Did i hear right? Could you please repeat that?
Starcraft is simple ? ....no, just no.

thats all i wanted to say after all this starcraft talk

posted on March 16th, 2010, 7:14 pm

from other thread u should know that when Boggz is playing he is constantly consulting his Hamster therefore starcraft is simple for the Hamster (and Boggz). two heads are better than one, aye

posted on March 16th, 2010, 7:29 pm

posted on March 16th, 2010, 11:06 pm

Thats why boggz always wins lol he is cheating, talking to his hamster all the time. And he made us believe that he was the strategy genius, when it was the his hamster. Lets get the little fur ball then ill be able to win too.

posted on March 16th, 2010, 11:38 pm

There are rumours that this observing hamster is actually the famous commentator yandoman.

posted on March 17th, 2010, 1:23 am

Thats why boggz always wins lol he is cheating, talking to his hamster all the time. And he made us believe that he was the strategy genius, when it was the his hamster. Lets get the little fur ball then ill be able to win too.

  You stay away from my Piggie  .


Aaaaaalright ... I think the SC fans out here are taking this a little personally.  Starcraft has been around so long that there are people willing to die in order to squash any opinions they disagree with .  I'm NOT saying SC is bad.  I have lots of fun playing it because it's very competitive. 

  HOWEVER ... I do firmly believe that it is the BEST of the RTS games that feature hard-countering and an easily understandable gamestyle.  That's not a bad thing, it's just more streamlined than other RTS's.  Don't get your panties in a twist, Tom .  I like Starcraft, I'm just saying that it is a relic left over from when games were simpler and that's why it has such enormous replay value.  It's fast, it's efficient, and it's usually over quickly.  Easy replay and easy for it to be understood across culture lines (by the crazy Japanese and Koreans), one of whom actually made Starcraft a national sport ...


Again!  Not a bad thing!

posted on March 17th, 2010, 2:09 am

Thats why boggz always wins lol he is cheating, talking to his hamster all the time. And he made us believe that he was the strategy genius, when it was the his hamster. Lets get the little fur ball then ill be able to win too.

"Gee Piggie, what are we going to do tonight?"

"The same thing we do every night, Boggz.  Try and win at Fleet Operations!"

They're jiggy, they're Piggie and the Boggz Boggz Boggz Boggz Boggz!

posted on March 17th, 2010, 10:32 pm

HOWEVER ... I do firmly believe that it is the BEST of the RTS games that feature hard-countering and an easily understandable gamestyle.

show me

posted on March 18th, 2010, 12:44 am

show me

Not my job .  You can take all the things I've said and apply them yourself.  Hopefully you can meet me halfway .

[tom]

posted on March 18th, 2010, 1:32 am

Last edited by tom on March 18th, 2010, 1:48 am, edited 1 time in total.

of course its not ur job
showing me the simplicity of starcraft in starcraft would be ... to simple

EDIT: suddenly i feel like sharing.
u gave me a link to some not v high level game and then kept saying 'sc is simple, sc is simple, ...'
i gave u a link to sc battle analysis where for 1h or so a guy talks about just how much thinking is put into playing sc and a link to university lecturers about strategy in starcraft.
i would give u more resources on sc but somehow i doubt u checked the ones i already gave u. i just slapped myself for trying to use reason and common sense in an internet argument and showed myself this image to realize again just how stupid i am:

i hope u do the same on ur end
peace

posted on March 18th, 2010, 1:51 am

thats a horrible pic *cough* i mean shame on you tom. tisk, tisk.

posted on March 18th, 2010, 4:43 am

of course its not ur job
showing me the simplicity of starcraft in starcraft would be ... to simple

EDIT: suddenly i feel like sharing.
u gave me a link to some not v high level game and then kept saying 'sc is simple, sc is simple, ...'
i gave u a link to sc battle analysis where for 1h or so a guy talks about just how much thinking is put into playing sc and a link to university lecturers about strategy in starcraft.
i would give u more resources on sc but somehow i doubt u checked the ones i already gave u. i just slapped myself for trying to use reason and common sense in an internet argument and showed myself this image to realize again just how stupid i am:

Sorry to see you resort to stuff like this, Tom.  I thought you were a more reasonable guy ....


I never gave you any links .  Dom gave you a link and someone else provided the link to the actual game between those two.

I don't think links or so-called "proof" is necessary here.  This is a difference of opinions and there is no proof.  I was asking you to see me halfway about how Starcraft is a game released in 1998 and reflects the gamestyle of that era.  It's simple, the tech-tree (though thorough for that time period) is now a bit antiquated, and how the gameplay is pretty straightforward.  I feel that's the reason why it has such immense replay value and has become such a phenomenon.

  If you really feel like I am a retard because I don't see things the way you do, well ... well I really have nothing to say then.  I asked you to see me halfway and acknowledge that Starcraft is a pretty simple and straightforward game.  The tech-tree is the younger brother to Warcraft 2 and improved on the places where W2 became outdated.  Things like universally equal damage between units types, 2 Combat units, 1 Ranged unit, 1 Mage unit, 1 Siege Unit were improved on and altered to be more dynamic, but the overall gameplay and style are nearly identical.  The engine is the same ... it only seems reasonable to me that the two are brother/sister  .  Again, not a bad thing, just something to notice and understand.

  Wish you wouldn't take this so personally ... it's making you be nasty .

posted on March 18th, 2010, 10:26 am

Dom gave you a link and someone else provided the link to the actual game between those two.

it was yandonman's link, sry.

I don't think links or so-called "proof" is necessary here.  This is a difference of opinions and there is no proof.

yes, there is. i have a little background in math and philosophy. i guess i got caught up with that mentality here and not just trying to waste my breath exchanging opinions without any 'proof' behind it.

If you really feel like I am a retard because I don't see things the way you do, well ... well I really have nothing to say then.

than u should read my post again. i said im a retard not u. 'i hope u do the same on ur end' this was just a longer version of 'im done with this'

I asked you to see me halfway and acknowledge that Starcraft is a pretty simple and straightforward game.  The tech-tree is the younger brother to Warcraft 2 and improved on the places where W2 became outdated.  Things like universally equal damage between units types, 2 Combat units, 1 Ranged unit, 1 Mage unit, 1 Siege Unit were improved on and altered to be more dynamic, but the overall gameplay and style are nearly identical.  The engine is the same ... it only seems reasonable to me that the two are brother/sister  .  Again, not a bad thing, just something to notice and understand.

here are some points to back up ur opinion but as i said 'im done'.

Wish you wouldn't take this so personally ... it's making you be nasty .

im a mean person, i said it many times b4.