The Iconians

posted on August 16th, 2011, 4:07 pm

I see that everyone hates the game, but I don't see what's so bad about the ships. And I'm not meaning the ships as they appear in the game. I mean, the ships as they appear on that one ship chart. I've never played STO, and with it being sus-based, I probably never will, but I don't see why the community hates the ship designs so much. They aren't bad, and I wouldn't hesitate to create them in a mod for Flops if I had any actual experience with A2 modding.

In my personal opinion, the ships are unoriginal and primarily just variants on existing ships. Basically, they've got three or four 'new' ships that are just modified Intrepids, another three or four that are modified Norways, etc. Ships with the same basic layout like the Constitution, Ambassador, and Galaxy are fine, but they need to be distinctly different and obviously separate classes, like the Constitution, Ambassador, and Galaxy.

posted on August 17th, 2011, 1:34 am

In my personal opinion, the ships are unoriginal and primarily just variants on existing ships. Basically, they've got three or four 'new' ships that are just modified Intrepids, another three or four that are modified Norways, etc. Ships with the same basic layout like the Constitution, Ambassador, and Galaxy are fine, but they need to be distinctly different and obviously separate classes, like the Constitution, Ambassador, and Galaxy.

I understand that. But I also understand that there isn't much in the way of difference between the original and the variants (yes, variants. Sub-types, like the Lakota and the Valiant). That's why I was meaning as, like, veteran designs - or something. I guess I didn't make that clear. But I do like a few of the ship designs, and I do like the original designs that make up, I think, the last tier. At least the original ones, that look like a federation ship as they are now, are not so horrible that the mere mention of them turns a thread into an STO-Hate Club gathering, as it, eveidently, the case with this thread. I guess I started it by asking why the club hates STO ships, so I'm sorry Fralo for causing the thread to go OT.

posted on August 17th, 2011, 2:08 am

I could see some of the ships as refits or sub-types, but I think they would need some adjustments to fit in with the FO art style.

Anyway, back on topic. Hopefully. I think that the Iconian ship is a nice design, but I think it may stand out a bit much next to the other races.

posted on August 17th, 2011, 6:17 pm

They were actually once planned as a playable faction

Wait...when/why did this happen!? Well, whos taking their place then?

posted on August 18th, 2011, 1:06 am

Whoa, whoa, whoa...wait a parsec.

Were planned? Do you mean they're being cut? I think everybody would love to see new playable races. But, I believe that would be a cool way to design both their ships, and their physiology.

posted on August 18th, 2011, 1:48 am

Considering how any custom design in STO tends to be extremly blockly and often have square nacelles, I'd really hate to see any of that in flops.

Not to mention their compleatly fugly new Enterprise design.

[Lost_Spaceship]

posted on August 18th, 2011, 5:04 am

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When the Iconians and other races will arrive in the Fleet Ops universe???? 

The devs have something in mind ?

posted on August 18th, 2011, 5:20 am

Based on what I know after the faction and map redoes are done there are rough plans to do the Noxter first, then Ciadan, and finally Iconians. I'm not sure if the plans have changed since then though.

posted on August 18th, 2011, 5:47 am

I'm not a big fan of STO, but i dont hate it either.

Yet, i the Iconians should ever make it into FO, we will probably come up with a storyline and designes ourselves, as the FO storyline already contains a few bits and pieces of them They were actually once planned as a playable faction

OMG i think i'm going to cry, the term "once planned" is very disturbing to me, the thought of losing one of the coolest st races as playable.............. whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

posted on August 18th, 2011, 7:24 am

Yep, those factions are still on the table. Yet, we will focus on the faction redos, the environment redos and several other gameplay enhancements first, followed by the noxter That should keep the team busy for a while. We will see which larger pile of work we will start after that, no fixed plans yet

posted on August 18th, 2011, 8:30 am

Yep, those factions are still on the table. Yet, we will focus on the faction redos, the environment redos and several other gameplay enhancements first, followed by the noxter

ok, me happyer naow, environment redo should be cool to see.