Boggz' New Computer

[Boggz]

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 12:25 am

Last edited by Boggz on June 25th, 2011, 10:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

EDIT:

   Here's the new computer - which will probably arrive some time in July.  Boggz' wet dream





Alright!!!!!

   Looks like it might finally be time for Boggzy to get a new computer.  A little angel has stretched out it's wings and offered to buy der Boggzor a new Hamster wheel.


   I would like to ask what you guys think a new desktop should have.  Here are the min requirements I am going to ask of my dear savior:

  At least:  EDIT:  And let's keep it under $1000, please

Quad-Core 3GB Processor
4-6GB RAM
Dedicated Video Card (here's where I could use some suggestions )
More Storage space than I could ever use.

   What do you guys think in terms of Graphics cards?  Besides Fleetops, I would like one capable of letting me video-edit as well.

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 12:26 am

Is there a target price your shooting for?

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 12:30 am

I am looking to build one myself.  It is much more cost effective to build your own, and you get better products for your money.

I would get a Geforce 250 At least(I am probably getting something more like in the 500's range)

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 12:33 am

3GHz Processor maybe?

Also, don't go by GHz too much on a processor, the amount of performance from each hert differs between every architecture.

Hard drive space is dead cheap now, I reckon you could get all you would ever want for about $100-$150 (assuming you are buying components, which I'm not sure from your post.

In terms of GPU, ATI are the best value for money. I don't think it has much to with video editing, as far as I know that is all processor.

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 1:24 am

With your budget, I'd get something along these lines:

CPU: Intel i5 2500K 3.3GHz -or- 2600K 3.4 GHz
GPU: nVidia GeForce GTX 470
Mainboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro
Memory: 4-8 GB (I like Corsair, but choose as you see fit) - more if you can afford it
PSU: min. 650W
HDD: 1 TB (Western Digital or Samsung)

Optional:
Aftermarket CPU cooler for overclocking (Corsair A70 for example or something from EKL)
A dedicated SSD for Windows (will boost your boot times)

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If you don't need a fancy PC case you should be well under 1000$ with these components.

While AMD offers CPUs at similar clock speeds, those are inferior in performance outside of gaming.
Adobe Premiere and Sony Vegas can use the GPU for rendering I believe. So a powerful graphic card is what you want, while the Sandy Bridge GPUs can easily be pushed beyong 4 GHz with sufficient cooling. Finally, make sure you get Windows 7 64-bit with your new computer. 64-bit makes a world of a difference for audio and video production and you'll need it anyway when you want to use more than 4 GB of RAM.

[Anonymous]

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 4:06 am

Last edited by Anonymous on June 23rd, 2011, 4:20 am, edited 1 time in total.

....Aaannnddd here's your link to all things refurbished, bud.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=2628&srkey=refurbished%20pc

But Mal, refurbished?  I don't know about that???

My desktop and laptop are both refurbished.  I've had them for 3 years and they've been wonderful.  Usually, refurbished machines were just machines they didn't sell in the 20 seconds it takes for a pc to become "obsolete".  Or the line had one goofy thing with it, and they put a new part in and the whole thing works like new.  You can save on the PC, and then search tiger direct or newegg for deals on a really good graphics card.  Maybe buy a few cheap fans (I never did) and put them in just for fun.

Make sure you save $39 for Fraps, since I'm pretty sure it will be obligatory for you to do replays once you have a PC that can do them!

Edit:  I just searched really quick, and this one popped out at me.  $400 dollars, and then you can spend $100-150 on your graphics card.  You'll need a monitor as well, that's where a lot of money will go.   This one might not even be the best deal there, so you can search through and see.  You can also check out Newegg's refurbished computers.  I know that I've had good luck with tigerdirect, so that's why I think of them first.  Also, this means you don't have to put anything together, and sometimes that's worth it.

Also, here's a link for their video cards.  There's always one that's a good balance between performance and cash somewhere.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/Category/guidedSearch.asp?CatId=28&srkey=video%20cards

And here's some more links to what look to be good deals, although you already know I'm not an expert on this stuff.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=41125&Sku=E145-0550

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 6:19 am

Ah Mal, my friend .  You are a good man to do so much research for me .

  I've actually decided on one!  It's this one right here!


  The situation here is that my wonderful father has asked me for the specs on a PC that I'd like to use for video editing and such.  FleetOps shall be a nice periphery benefit .  He and his office technology manager asked me for the specs I'd need, and it's my choice to keep it under $1000.

  Thanks again for all your input and work, everyone!

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 6:35 am

But boggz wouldnt you rather have this computer?

Newegg.com - HP Z800 FM017UT#ABA Workstation XEON X5677(3.46GHz) 16GB DDR3 600GB HDD Capacity NVIDIA Quadro FX3800 (1 GB) Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 7:26 am

Well. I've got an ATI card myself. I'm really happy with it.
For video editting, anything that is on the market today which has at least mid-range specs are good.
I don't know about NVidia. Since they moved on to a knew numbering system I didn't follow it anymore.
If someone can explain to me how that numbering system works? I'd much appreciate it.

Anyways. I've heard that you can 'unlock' additional cores via the bios with amd processors nowadays.
I've heard that you could unlock from 2 to 4 cores and from 3 to 6 cores on the processor. though I'm not shure about the quadcore. Would be cool if you could unlock that one to 8 cores! Make shure you get the black edition then. But this might be interesting for you to look in to.

As for RAM (Memory). It depends how much your system uses. Also, faster RAM is better than A LOT of ram of which you aren't using half of it anyways. I think 4 GB of RAM is enough.

Also, are you planning on doing a custom build or a standard desktop, as in from a brand like Dell?

These are my two cents.

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 10:43 am

Just a few notes here. The last gaming computer I bought is now 7 years old, so I don't know about up-to-date hardware.

generally, cpus are overrated. sure, a good cpu can do a lot of work for a game, but most of them aren't built for the graphics stuff. you need fpus for that, and a normal gpu has several of these. if you want a dedicated gaming pc, and have some money left over, put it into the graphics card instead of the cpu. Besides, the whole processor complex is restricted when it comes to speed, so if you've got a lazy system bus, a hexacore won't do a lot more more work than a quadcore, because every time you need to load something, the bus will brake the whole system. RAM is linked up to the northbridge, so it's less of an issue, but loading from the hdd will really hurt. (but we're talking about microseconds here, so this might not be relevant if you just want to play a f@#<ing game.)

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 10:55 am

Go for the i5 2500K and save the money. The 2600 is not so much faster. RAM: Buy the cheapest you find from a well known brand. I look at guarantee - some offer life long (25 yrs). I recommend a GeForce 560Ti as a graphics card, it is nearly voiceless in idle and is strong hearted
If you can offord: Nothing boosts your speed more than a SSD. Id should be about 60 GBs, for all your running programs.

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 11:28 am

if you want to build it yourself, take a look here: http://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/f3efg/
otherwise, dell and hp both have decent offers for complete systems, their pcs are usually well-balanced and you can pick upgrades as you like.

storage: i'd put in a ssd as system drive and some cheap slower hdd as data dump.
cpu: intel's are better quality, but also more expensive than amd's. i prefer intel cpus.
ram: i'd buy a single fast 4gb module, that's enough for now and you can upgrade later.
graphics card: has almost no impact on video editing. i wouldn't buy the latest generation, their prices usually drop considerably when the next gen comes out. again, intel's (nvidia) are a bit better quality/higher price than amd's (ati), but here i prefer amd, because graphics cards get outdated much faster than cpus.
you'll also need a power supply that can satisfy the graphics card's demands, modern cards pull a lot of juice.
finally, you'll want a decent case, looks are not important, but airflow, noise blocking, access, room inside and reachable usb ports are.

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 12:19 pm

I've actually decided on one!  It's this one right here!

With $1000, you MIGHT actually be able to afford that one!

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 12:21 pm

ram: i'd buy a single fast 4gb module, that's enough for now and you can upgrade later.
graphics card: has almost no impact on video editing.

I have to disagree with these points.

4 GB is the bare minimum for video editing and GPU assisted rendering is already possible with Premiere.

posted on June 23rd, 2011, 12:46 pm

4GB of ram is sufficient. With video editting, all the ram of the videocard should be used, not the system ram. But I'd do at least a dual channel ram setup. That would be 2 ram modules of 2GB.