Patch Project Patch and Vanilla Ultimate Mod

posted on August 24th, 2010, 7:17 pm

lol You are doing it again Jetnova.

[jetnova16]

posted on August 25th, 2010, 1:50 am

Last edited by jetnova16 on August 25th, 2010, 1:59 am, edited 1 time in total.

Just some more friendly advice for Jet as well.  You may get more assistance if you stop posting massive amounts of text with each post.  Keep to the basics of what the problem is and what you need.  This will mean anyone who is willing and can help is more likely to take the time to read about your problems.

Also keep in mind that anyone offering to help you is doing so out of the goodness of their heart.  They are in no way obliged to help you or in any way responsible for the success or failure of your school project.

I'm sorry about posting massive amounts of text but short time with an internet connection because every time I'm getting online now, its outside my local public library and I'm using the wireless signal and also running my laptop on battery power so what I've been doing is keeping my internet browser open with the replies I've gotten and writing what I want to say using Microsoft Office and then pasting it in. That’s also how I’m recording down the problems that I’m experiencing in the game because of the fact that I’m writing those the moment the crash happens, everything that I was doing is on the top of my head at that moment and its easier to write so you can all understand what I’m trying to say or describe. I know that this could make it harder on everyone that does want to help but isn’t it best to be thorough and tell the whole problem in detail than to leave anything out?

Also, I do know that no one is obligated to help or even going to be responsible for whatever grade I end up getting in the end for this project. The end result for me might be a contender for Star Trek Armada III (of course if it ever gets released to the public, some parts might just be cut out depending on who gives permission for their mods to be used, that might just end up destroying the Fourth Campaign that will be the signature part of the mod when its complete.)

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All I am going to say about this is you conveniently forgot to add the threats of legal action towards both sites and their staff by yourself, the personal and legal threatening attacks on the people whom banned you and the down right demands for help expecting people to do the work for you.

All of this behaviour is unbecoming of a member of any community and thus you were banned after many attempts by all of us to try and reason with you and help you to the best of our ability. Ban evasion too didn't serve you too well either, at least on MSFC.

You should know that hitting someone in the back such as this is bound to be found out by those your are accusing, especially in a community as small of A2.

Before you start claiming you have so wrongly been treated, you might want to disclose to the members here the full truth that your terrible and disgusting behaviour was the reason you were banned and not the reason you stated above. Many people here are members of both sites and know we don't treat people as you have claimed.

Now don't bother replying, as like your harassing emails I get every so often demanding you be unbanned from MSFC, I will be ignoring anything you post or say about me or the situation you have once again brought up. Have a nice day.

I don't really want to get into that again at all Majestic but all I can say is that I HAVE NEVER esnt you any threatening e-mails because I never wrote them, they were from my professor using my e-mail well I was staying after class showing her  everything I was recieving from the Armada II Community. I can't and shouldn't be punished for her actions. The threats of legal action came from ehr too, because the colelge was being threatend by the bans and blocks too and it wasn't right to the other hundreds of students at the college.

Ban Evasion was all set up by Mrs. Parker too because she was angry at how the community wouldn't help at all and so she created me new user accounts to get the help that I deserved to get because I was only telling exactly what I was seeing happening in the game, what the other students saw  happening in my game and also Mrs. Parker herself. And before you say that you don't treat people way I've claimed, I got witnesses that can prove you have, but jsut lets forget about all of this and fix these problems please?

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:16 am

If you allowed your professor to use your account or let her know your account details then you are responsible.  When you leave school and enter the real world, if you work for a company using the "someone else did it with my account" defence will not get you very far.

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:29 am

yea as said before, as long as you dont release the stuff to the public, we are fine. Personal mods are always welcome. The archive posted here is not the big problem, as you did not really intend to release it either way (it has a clear character of a "help me" request ), i just had the imagination you were working a mod you want to release.

Thank you for understanding Optec, because that was my only intention in posting the link. At least  I think you understant the reason I posted it. I also hope others will understand that I'm only trying to do the right thing and have been since the day I started to mod Armada II when I first got the assignment. All the time I've felt alone and abandoned because no one would help me out and because of my proffessor, I was always met with ban after ban and teh fear that I'd never even get this project done. Because of that, I had to start over alot and because of that, I'm actually a month behind in the project well everyone else isn't, I actually had to take summer classes to try and catch up but nothing much has come out of that and now the fall semester is set to begin and the whole project is due in December.

I do want to inform you that someday that I might want to release the mod but of course that would only be with permission and if not enough permission or it just isn't enough to keep the Fourth Campaign Mission (for example then I wouldn't release it, but right now, or should I say the moment I've started using Fleet Ops in it and also want to incorporate the Seranix from the Armada I mod Future Tense, that  I know isn't released yet. I have been able to incorporate Armada I mods into the game without any problems.

Alright, to recap, I am not planning on releaseing the mod (at least not yet, but maybe in 5-10 years I might change my mind). The only reason I posted the link to the mod was a plea for help and for ever does download it and is willing to help me, I'll give them the ODF file for the working Dominion Starbase, and all other downloads would be sent best through Private Messages or e-mail if that is exceptable.

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:40 am

If you allowed your professor to use your account or let her know your account details then you are responsible.  When you leave school and enter the real world, if you work for a company using the "someone else did it with my account" defence will not get you very far.

I know why you would think that, but all accounts we students are using for projects are open material for the professor to have access to, especially when its related to the class and the project. So how is it my fault it its required by the college that the professor has access, can edit the posts and also have her own say?

I do know that the "real world" isn't like that, its not like anyone knows my other passwords and I'll never give them out. I do know what you're saying though and do understand you and to be honest I really don't want Mrs. Parker using my account but as her student and a member of the class I sadly don't have a choice in the matter. Either way, she has already caused lots of damage with my username on almost all Armada II sites, all of which I wish I could apologize to those members that use those sites because I'm nicer than what has been posted and that just isn't me. If I had the chance to be on those sites again under my one true user name (the one used here and not all those accounts Mrs. Parker created for me) I could show everyone that I'm actually a kind, respectful person and am even courteous.

[jetnova16]

posted on August 25th, 2010, 5:01 am

Last edited by jetnova16 on August 25th, 2010, 5:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

*****Now if possible I would like to get back on topic and leave all this stuff from the past in the past. What I really want to do and that I think I've been saying alot is to get back to the problems at hand in my mod.****

This one I think I might be missing something or something needs to be edited.
I've recently wanted to edit the Defiant-class and to take them out of the destroyer category well keeping their traditional sounds.

We all know from Captain Ben Sisko in Deep Space Nine about the back History of the Defiant-class. "Official its classified as an escort vessel, unofficially, the Defiant's a warship nothing more, nothing less. Five years ago, Starfleet began exploring the possibility of designing a new class of starship. This ship would have no families, no science labs, and no luxuries of any kind. It was designed for one purpose and one purpose only, to fight and defeat the Borg. The Defiant was a proto-type, the first ship in what would have been the Federations new battle fleet." "She may have flaws, but she has teeth."

Given that information, I took a file from the Art of War Mod entitled "Romdread.odf. (It’s like battle.odf or super.odf) and then I renamed it "warship.odf" I set this to be the included odf for the USS Defiant and all of the ships in her class. The ships perform flawlessly until they become damaged and drifting, that's when I've observed the game crashing. I found this out by putting the Defiant against a Borg Tactical Fusion Cube in the Map Editor. When the Defiant got too far damaged and it appeared to be on fire and venting plasma, the game crashed.


All right, here are the main files for the warship.odf and the USS Defiant. Please note that all the required weapons are in the games corresponging files and they work fine, its only when the ship is damaged and a derilect.


fdefiant.odf
#include "warship.odf"

//**********************************************************************
//A2PHYSPROJV1.1 PARAMETERS
physicsFile = "trek_sdestphys.odf"
rangeScan = 2000.0f
avoidanceClass = 3

//Name of Ship class in Ship Display window & in edit mode & tooltip
unitName = "Defiant Class"

//tooltips
tooltip = "USS Defiant NX-74205"
verboseTooltip = "The Flagship of the Federation during the DOminion War"

//This ship is a hero.
isHero = 1

//Ship label provided because this is a unique ship.
label = "USS Defiant"

//Race which can build ship & starting race of ship
race = "federation"

//Amount of time required to build ship
buildTime = 12.0

//Number of officers required to build this ship
officerCost = 7

//Number of crew required to build ship & Starting crew
crewCost = 80

//Dilithium Cost to build
dilithiumCost = 450

//Metal Cost to build
metalCost = 100

//Max Shield Strength & Begining Shield Strength <500
maxHealth = 10000

// Hitpoints

shieldGeneratorHitPoints = 1200
enginesHitPoints = 1200
weaponsHitPoints = 1200
lifeSupportHitPoints = 1200
sensorsHitPoints = 1200

//Rate at which shield recharges (points per second... we think)
shieldRate = 20.0

//Maximum Value of Special Energy
maxSpecialEnergy = 5000

//Rate at which special energy recharges (points per second... we think)
specialEnergyRate = 10

//**********************************************************************
//SHIP NAMES

//Possible Craft Names
possibleCraftNames =
"USS Defiant NX-74205"

//**********************************************************************
//ART PARAMETERS & WEAPON NAMES

// Twin Pulse Phaser
weapon1 = "xpulse"
weaponHardpoints1 = "hp01"

// Multi Targetting Phaser
weapon2 = "multiphas"
weaponHardpoints2 = "hp01" "hp02" "hp03" "hp04"

// Twin Pulse Phaser
weapon3 = "xpulse"
weaponHardpoints3 = "hp02"

// Twin Pulse Phaser
weapon4 = "xpulse"
weaponHardpoints4 = "hp03"

// Twin Pulse Phaser
weapon5 = "xpulse"
weaponHardpoints5 = "hp04"

// Quantum Torpedo
weapon6 = "quantum1"
weaponHardpoints6 = "hp05"

//Anti-matter Mines
weapon7 = "hamine"
weaponHardpoints7 = "hp18" "hp05" "hp01" "hp04"

// Tractor Beam
weapon8 = "gtracbm"
weaponHardpoints8 = "hp18"

//Cloaking Device
weapon9 ="grcloak"
weaponHardpoints9 = "hp06"

// Transphasic Torpedoes
weapon10 = "gtransphasic"
weaponHardpoints10 = "hp04" "hp05"

// Hardpoints to hit for various systems and other locations.
enginesTargetHardpoints = "hp06" "hp07" "hp08" "hp09" "hp10"
lifeSupportTargetHardpoints = "hp11" "hp12" "hp13" "hp14" "hp15"
weaponsTargetHardpoints = "hp01" "hp02" "hp03" "hp04" "hp05" "hp26" "hp27" "hp28" "hp29"
shieldGeneratorTargetHardpoints = "hp16" "hp17" "hp18" "hp19" "hp20"
sensorsTargetHardpoints = "hp21" "hp22" "hp23" "hp24" "hp25"
hullTargetHardpoints = "hp11" "hp12" "hp13" "hp14" "hp15" "hp16" "hp17" "hp18" "hp19" "hp20"
criticalTargetHardpoints = "hp11" "hp12" "hp13" "hp14" "hp15"

//**********************************************************************
//AI system parameters
//These parameters influence how the AI evaluates and compares craft.

//An abstract number that represents how much extra strength must be
//used to attack this craft due to its weapons.
// (0.0=no weapons, 0.5 = average weapons, 1.0=many good weapons)
attackPower = 0.25f

//The normalized intrinsic value of a target.  High value craft make good
//attack targets. (0.0=lowest value, 1.0=highest value)
intrinsicValue = 0.25f

//**********************************************************************
//CREW STATUS MULTIPLIERS
//The multiplier for the delay between shots for weapons while in yellow status
weaponYellow = 1.0f

//The multiplier for the delay between shots for weapons while in red status
weaponRed = 2.0f
//**********************************************************************
//MESSAGE & SOUND PARAMETERS
eventSelect = "SiskoSelect"
eventAcknowledge = "SiskoAcknowledge"
eventAttack = "SiskoAttack"
eventRedAlert = "SiskoRedAlert"
eventYellowAlert = "SiskoYellowAlert"
eventStop = "SiskoStop"
eventMove = "SiskoMove"
eventRepair = "SiskoRepair"
eventGreenAlert = "SiskoGreenAlert"
eventTransport = "SiskoTransport"
eventSelfDestruct = "SiskoSelfDestruct"
eventEngageCloak = "SiskoEngageCloak"

//**********************************************************************
//KEYMAP LABEL
hotkeyLabel = "HOTKEY_F3"

// let's make this a bit smaller
ScaleSOD = 0.8


For this file, the fireball is in the game and the only thing that I haven't changed is the sound parameters. I also gave the ship the ability to attack planets and that is working fine too.

warship.odf
#include "craft.odf"

//This is for stat accumulation
shipclass = "battleship"

//This is the main file for the battleship

//**********************************************************************
//AI system parameters
//These parameters influence how the AI evaluates and compares craft.

//An abstract number that represents how much extra strength must be
//used to attack this craft due to its weapons.
// (0.0=no weapons, 0.5 = average weapons, 1.0=many good weapons)
attackPower = 1.00f

//The normalized intrinsic value of a target.  High value craft make good
//attack targets. (0.0=lowest value, 1.0=highest value)
intrinsicValue = 0.50f

//**********************************************************************
//SYSTEM HITPOINTS
//These values are the hitpoint values of the systems
//If the value is set to zero the ship does not have that system
enginesHitPoints = 10
lifeSupportHitPoints = 10
weaponsHitPoints = 10
shieldGeneratorHitPoints = 10
sensorsHitPoints = 10
//**********************************************************************
//MESSAGE & SOUND PARAMETERS

eventSelect = "Cruiser1Select"
eventAcknowledge = "Cruiser1Acknowledge"
eventAttack = "Cruiser1Attack"
eventStop = "Cruiser1Stop"
eventMove = "Cruiser1Move"
eventRepair = "Cruiser1Repair"

//**********************************************************************

//John avoidance stuff DO NOT CHANGE
avoidanceClass = 8

// All battleships can attack planets
canAttackPlanets = 1

//**********************************************************************
//PHYSICS PARAMETERS
//physics file for all other physics stuff
physicsFile = "swarshipphys.odf"

// physics file for star trekky physics behavior
trekPhysicsFile = "trek_sbattphys.odf"

//Explosion to use
fireball = "xrfireblg"
//************************************************************
// Tara additions for context sensitive menus
combat = 1
alert = 1
can_sandd = 1


***Even though I am using Sisco's Defiant as the example, its doing the same thing with the Defiant-class (fdestroy.odf). This could be causing a crash with the Federation as the AI as well.
Also all the other previously stated crashes are still happening including the one wit hall teh races Trading Stations. I believe I have already described this problem though.

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[Equinox1701e]

posted on August 25th, 2010, 7:14 am

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Just have to add my 2 cents here. Ive been in college and this whole story just seems wrong to me, seems like your professor is way too involved in your personal work. Most professors I've seen dont really get all that involved in their students work, its your problem to figure it out, not theirs. Seems like if this project of yours had been going on for this long with no help and with this constant complaining you have to do to your professor it just seems to me she would tell you to drop it and do something else. Maybe your telling the truth, but after reading all your posts it just seems like something is off about you.

Now on another topic, you come here asking these fine modders for help while at the same time slamming the FO mod (intentional or not) by saying most modders dont use it cause its hard to work with, and that all the exra features it has dont make it better, or saying its not as good because it doesnt have all the races. Ive been playing Armada II since it came out, and I've tried many different mods for it and I can say FO is by far the BEST mod for A2. Its gameplay is far superior to any mod I've seen so far and they are working on a single player for it, FO is by far not done, so dont judge it yet. You want help then dont come here telling people you can post ther work because you are special and protected by law, and dont come here insulting the mod they worked so hard to create for all of us to enjoy. Show me a mod that has any real community that plays it together for A2 yet. You may have not intended to insult anyone, but as a big fan of FO an they people here I felt insulted by some of your comments, lucky for you I'm not a modder so you can piss me off all you want and you wont lose anything, but you may want to change your tone an attitude around here with the other community members, try to be a bit more humble in your approach next time.

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:26 pm

Just have to add my 2 cents here. Ive been in collage and this whole story just seems wrong to me,

  OH Equinox .  Way to shoot yourself in the foot in the 2nd sentence 


  Look, Jet I don't understand why you even bother making such kinds of "defenses" about your rights as a student.  The modders may be German but may of us are Americans just like you .

  This legal "right" to educational use doesn't exist in the way that you are trying to say it does.  I would really recommend that you stop referring to it as you frequently do and just be nice! .  Optec is a very nice fella and has agreed to allow you to play with his hard work as long as it's not released.  He's even gone so far as to explain the details of what "releasing" that material is.  It's in horribly poor taste to turn around and start strong-arming someone who has put so much time and energy in.

  Oh, and many of us have very high levels of education ourselves and play this for fun.  Trying to talk about "educational law" and such is inadvisable .  Many of us know much more than you think .

  Just stick to the modding and I'm sure people will be more than happy to help

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:36 pm

  OH Equinox .  Way to shoot yourself in the foot in the 2nd sentence 

Oops, hey it was like 3am while I was ranting here, but yeah dont I feel silly, however considering the amount of typos in Jets posting I dont feel so bad 

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:40 pm

   Look, Jet I don't understand why you even bother making such kinds of "defenses" about your rights as a student.  The modders may be German but may of us are Americans just like you .

OH buggz . Way to shoot yourself in the foot in the 2nd sentence (of the second paragraph)

man, typos need to die. i hatez dem.

other than that, boggz you are one of the few people on this forum who paragraphs and uses indents for easy reading etc. i dont even do that lol. i'm forgetting my engrish.

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:41 pm

Who's Buggz?

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:41 pm

Who's Buggz?

that wasnt a typo

posted on August 25th, 2010, 6:38 pm

Buggz?  Isn't he the rabbit who says Wassup Doc?

Anyway. none of this idle discussion is helping jet with his modding problems... whatever they are.   

posted on August 26th, 2010, 4:50 am

Just have to add my 2 cents here. Ive been in college and this whole story just seems wrong to me, seems like your professor is way too involved in your personal work. Most professors I've seen dont really get all that involved in their students work, its your problem to figure it out, not theirs. Seems like if this project of yours had been going on for this long with no help and with this constant complaining you have to do to your professor it just seems to me she would tell you to drop it and do something else. Maybe your telling the truth, but after reading all your posts it just seems like something is off about you.

Now on another topic, you come here asking these fine modders for help while at the same time slamming the FO mod (intentional or not) by saying most modders dont use it cause its hard to work with, and that all the exra features it has dont make it better, or saying its not as good because it doesnt have all the races. Ive been playing Armada II since it came out, and I've tried many different mods for it and I can say FO is by far the BEST mod for A2. Its gameplay is far superior to any mod I've seen so far and they are working on a single player for it, FO is by far not done, so dont judge it yet. You want help then dont come here telling people you can post ther work because you are special and protected by law, and dont come here insulting the mod they worked so hard to create for all of us to enjoy. Show me a mod that has any real community that plays it together for A2 yet. You may have not intended to insult anyone, but as a big fan of FO an they people here I felt insulted by some of your comments, lucky for you I'm not a modder so you can piss me off all you want and you wont lose anything, but you may want to change your tone an attitude around here with the other community members, try to be a bit more humble in your approach next time.

(Written in MS Word)
I know what you mean about college, but it is slightly different when the college is a community college and there aren’t that many students really, after these type of colleges are open to the local community and make most of their money through tuition increases and also mostly through International students. Since community college’s professors actually work with their students because of the smaller environment, we students are able to get more help from the professors and this leads to a better learning experience.  I take it you haven’t been to any community college but speaking as a student at one I can tell you things are different than they are at other colleges or universities, namely one difference is how the professors actually treat their students.
There is a reason why my professor is so actively involved in this project when it comes to me, and that’s because she’s trying her best to help me when I’m not getting the help that I have been asking for at Aramda2Files and at MSFC. I don’t have the option of choosing another game to work on because of the fact that the classes last semester is about to begin and furthermore Star Trek Armada II is the only game that I have that I want to mod/change because the other is Star Trek Legacy and I like that game the way it is and don’t want to mod/change it. If I was actually getting the help that I’ve been asking for, she wouldn’t be as involved as she is.
I don’t take kindly to someone being rude to say that “there’s something off of about me”. First maybe you should treat people with alittle more respect and not say things about other people that you don’t personally know and thus can’t judge, its just wrong and furthermore being someone that is/was picked on all his life for actually liking Star Trek on TV, reading the books and playing the games, I got it every day and I didn’t like it but instead of stopping doing something I loved doing I had to get tough and deal with the jerks that thought they were better than me just because they liked the more popular things to modern day students. I shouldn’t have to take someone saying what you did about me at all.
Now for what you saying I was saying about the Fleet Ops Team and the Mods in general is wrong, obviously you didn’t quite understand what  I was saying because it isn’t my opinions that I was stating because even though I don’t play Fleet Ops doesn’t mean I don’t like it. What I said it what I’ve heard from other users at Armada2Files and how POTD Pictures are rated by other users. Anything from Fleet Ops gets a lower rating by many different users, so the logical thinking person would realize that their not for Fleet Ops. This is point is further put a crossed by the fact that there are not many mods even featured for Fleet Ops at Armada2Files and for what I’ve noticed at ArmadaFleetCommands downloads, there are only Fleet Ops installation mods, thus again not many mods for it at all. So what hypothesis do you draw from that? Its my theory/opinion that its because of how the users at Armada2Files just don’t like Fleet Ops, either they don’t like the graphics or the textures of the ships, I don’t know but I’m not  among those people; I may have stated what I’ve observed there but doesn’t make it my opinion because if that was how I felt why would I be here at this site looking for help with my game and also even converting some Fleet Ops and ships and stations for my personal mod if I didn’t support them or what they’re doing in any way? In fact if I could afford to do so, I would actually give a donation, its just my financial situation as of right now won’t allow me to do so at the moment and I hope that it would in a couple of months. Now lastly, I would say that the only two reasons I’m not playing Fleet Ops or modding it is the fact I don’t understand the complexity of the ODF files, or how to convert standard Armada II files to its coding. The other reason is that there are no campaign missions in it and I have no way to play Star Trek Armada II online (Multi Player Games) because I don’t have an internet connection all of the time and also it seems that I can’t even get online to play when I do have the chance, no one is playing the game. Thus enter my mod, it will give me a game to be challenged at and possibly even defeated at my own game. Isn’t this understandable?
Alright, you say that I’ve upset other members that play Fleet Ops; well my only intention coming here was to ask for help with my Star Trek Armada II game and instead everyone is trying to keep all this going when I’ve been trying to get back to fixing the problems in my Star Trek Armada II mod, I have stated many times that I’ve wanted to get back to the mod but it seems no one has even been listening to (or reading that). True I stated some observations I’ve made and heard at other Armada II modding sites, but those opinions are subject to their original owners not anyone who just mentions them.
NOTE TO EVERYONE & STAFF – I am sorry if I’ve offended anyone and I am and have always been truthful with everything that I’ve been saying.  I consider it a sin to lie and actually am a very courteous person and even respectful, I can’t be held responsible for how Mrs. Parker has been with her time in trying to help me get this project done. She hasn’t had to be like this for the other students because when the other students turn to help for their chosen games, they are actually getting it and the communities involved in their games are actually supporting them, I find it hurtful and disrespectful that since I started this project that I’ve been met with all different issues and little help from other modders who keep telling me that what I keep seeing happening in front of my own to eyes can’t actually be happening, is impossible, or actually being caused by me (when the problem happened after using files that I didn’t even edit and only followed the creators instructions. I have even found incomplete mods so many times, like textures missing, ODF’s missing (like weapons), or even SODs missing). How is all that my own fault? It just seems that some people don’t want to admit their mistakes that they have made and then not release a patch because they did. I have learned a lot from modding, not to use Auto-Installers, and I have even learned how to add a ship or station that doesn’t have any techtree or sprites information. 
The last thing I want to say to everyone is a question: “How many times have I said that I wanted to forget about all this about laws, and continuing this thing “attacking each other” and to just get back the reason why this Forum thread was started and to discuss the issues in the game and to get help fixing them.
****All I Want To Do Is Fix The Problems In My Game So I Can Complete My Class And the Mod And Actually Have A Game That Is Actually Playing Smoothly Without Crashing.****

[jetnova16]

posted on August 26th, 2010, 4:52 am

Last edited by jetnova16 on August 26th, 2010, 4:54 am, edited 1 time in total.

  OH Equinox .  Way to shoot yourself in the foot in the 2nd sentence 


   Look, Jet I don't understand why you even bother making such kinds of "defenses" about your rights as a student.  The modders may be German but may of us are Americans just like you .

   This legal "right" to educational use doesn't exist in the way that you are trying to say it does.  I would really recommend that you stop referring to it as you frequently do and just be nice! .  Optec is a very nice fella and has agreed to allow you to play with his hard work as long as it's not released.  He's even gone so far as to explain the details of what "releasing" that material is.  It's in horribly poor taste to turn around and start strong-arming someone who has put so much time and energy in.

   Oh, and many of us have very high levels of education ourselves and play this for fun.  Trying to talk about "educational law" and such is inadvisable .  Many of us know much more than you think .

   Just stick to the modding and I'm sure people will be more than happy to help

(Written in MS Word)
I am only making defenses about my rights as a student because I have relatives in law enforcement and also a cousin who is a lawyer so I happen to know about laws that not everyone is familiar with. Heck I even know a law that a friend of mine doesn’t even know about that gives a loophole to something that is personal so I won’t even say it here but I don’t even know if I should tell her yet.  I bet it is a law not many of you even know about. I still owe my cousin a thank you on finding me it but not yet. I don’t want to disrespect anyone but with one of my cousins a lawyer, another being an investigate close to the SS; I do know things that not everyone does.
I already understand where Optec is coming from with everything that he’s saying and I also understand that I really need permissions from the Fleet Ops Team to release my personal mod since it incorporates Fleet Ops SODs and Textures but the ODF files are edited through a mod on Armada2Files called Dominion Ultimate. I am thankful for everything that Optec has been saying and has done with/through Fleet Ops. I know that he and the rest of the team have put a lot of time into the project and I value that, in no way do I mean any of them or anyone here disrespect, after all, I want the help from everyone possible with my game and maybe to offer some of the things I’ve learned to those that are also having trouble.
So like I said before (or might appear in the next posting since I’m pre-writing them using Microsoft Word well I’m at my room in my college run apartment (meaning there are other students here, some of which like stealing other people’s foods): “I just want to forget all of this and get back to solving the problems in my mod (I don’t feel right saying project when everyone else refers to it as a mod).