Star Trek Armada II - Requesting Modding Help & Crashing Err

posted on September 14th, 2010, 2:06 am

Wait!  let me see your norace.odf and races.odf.  I wonder if there is a problem with that.  That could be because when the game registers it as a derelict, there is no race to send it to.

I will look at then events file though, just in case.

I actually don't need to install the ship in my game.  i know how to make it to work my game, but we are trying to get it to work in yours.

 We are narrowing it down.

Here is the requested files, I also included the Federations.odf file too.

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posted on September 14th, 2010, 2:12 am

This is just a guess, but try this.

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posted on September 14th, 2010, 2:29 am

This is just a guess, but try this.

I'll try the file you attached.
I'll have to get back to you about the results later, my laptop is running very low on battery life right now.

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I'll also take any other suggestions anyone might have.

posted on September 14th, 2010, 4:20 am

This is just a guess, but try this.

I tried your races.odf file that you attached and the crash still occured right after the USS Defiant became a derelict vessel and was on fire. Like usual, this when the crash occured. I have attached the bugreport from this crash and also the screenshot from the moment it happened. Does anyone have any more ideas that I could try to fix this problem?

****Error I'm Reminded of that is like this one****

This crash is reminding me of another type of crash that I had in my game in a previous install and I've found the bug report and the screenshot from that error as well. In that error, I got an idea from William Shatner's Star Trek Novel: Star Trek The Return. I gave the Borg a Romulan D'deridex-class Warbird that like in the novel well the Borg and Romulans had a small alliance, the Romulan ships were equiped with Borg Weapons and Transwarp Drives. After any of these warbirds were built, the game would crash instead of launching the ships. I know these files have nothing to do with the error at hand, but I included their screenshot and bugreport as well, it is dated first before its name though. If this concept can eventually be fixed too, then I have an addition for my mod for the Borg.

****End Reminded Error****

Now Back To The Defiant Crashing Error after that little side track:

Well waiting for my laptop's battery to charge so I can post my findings for the last test with the new race.odf file from Adm. Zaxxon, I decided to narrow down the problem even further. I changed this line in the warship.odf file (fireball = "xrfireblg") to (fireball = "xfireblg) since in a previous suggestion, I was told to remove the "r" from the text of the file corresponding to that fireball. with that one letter removed, the crash still occured but exactly at the moment when the USS Defiant should have exploded. The screenshot and Bugreport from this moment are also attached. For this one, look for the one that has the # 4 in its title.

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Because this keeps happening with the warshipi.odf file that I created, I'm alittle curious how others would actually make a "warship.odf" file. When I created this file, my 
specifications I followed was to use a odf file entitled "romdread.odf" (I've included this file now to as another attachment). I got that file from another mod and it works just fine in my game for the Romulan Ship that's using it (strange isn't it?). All I did was edit the file with these thoughts in mind:
1) The Ship has to be stronger than a battleship, a super ship and special ship.
2) It has to be able to take on a Tactical Fusion cube and even if its heavily damaged, its to still be able to survive to limp back to a shipyard for repairs.
3) IT can't survive against more than one Tactical Fusion Cube.
4) Like all battleships, its has the capabilities to attack planets.

To get these parameters that I wanted I figured editing an existing file would be best and that's what I set out to do. By any chance well doing this, did I make a mistake some 
place, maybe with some coding or something? My challenge to anyone who wants to accept it, what type of a "warship.odf" would you create given the parameters I set out to use? 
Also if anyone is willing to create a "warship.odf" from scratch would it be possible to test it in game to see if the same crashing error happens?

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posted on September 14th, 2010, 4:32 am

Here are some more attachments.

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posted on September 14th, 2010, 4:35 am

Here is the attachments that correspond to the crashing error that I mentioned about the Borg-Romulan Alliance D'deridex-class Warbird which the idea came from William Shatner's novel Star Trek The Return.

This error happened in my previous installs/attempts at this mod. If this problem can be fixed it will be incorporated into this mod, but this is a last resort thing. I just like to bring it to attention now if that is alright. You can overlook this part for now though.


[b]For now though, lets just stick with the crashing error involving the USS Defiant, the Defiant-class and the warship.odf. Thank you very much for your understanding.[/b]

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[Anonymous]

posted on September 14th, 2010, 1:13 pm

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Yeah, those all seem to be the same crash(I don't know about the romulan one though)



Hmmm, so does this crash occur only when this ship blows up?

Interesting...

I will try some more things, but it does seem it is localized to this one ship.




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Here try this.*shrugs*  I am just guessing at this point, but we can narrow it down this way.

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posted on September 14th, 2010, 9:23 pm

Yeah, those all seem to be the same crash(I don't know about the romulan one though)



Hmmm, so does this crash occur only when this ship blows up?

Interesting...

I will try some more things, but it does seem it is localized to this one ship.




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Here try this.*shrugs*  I am just guessing at this point, but we can narrow it down this way.

The crash is localized to the Defiant-class as of right now because the other ship with the file (the USS Incursion and the buildable Incursion-class aren't being buil;t at the moment). For the screen shots, I've been using the same ship, the USS Defiant commanded by Ben Sisco.

NOTE:
I have taken some screenshots and bugreports for some of the other reported errors, I'm going to put those files in their corresponding threeads though.

Also, I got one question for the Forum Moderators, Can I post a Alphas Testing File with an Auto-Intaller with my mod in it? It is a full version of the game and it does have the .EXE file but the disc is tstill needed. This is only for purposes of asking for help and for those that want to download it can actually see the errors for themselves too and try their own ideas of fixes too. If this can be allowed, I give the Moderators full control of the file and relinquise rights to that one file.

posted on September 14th, 2010, 9:30 pm

I'd send a PM to Doca or Optec about such a thing

posted on September 14th, 2010, 10:10 pm

I'd send a PM to Doca or Optec about such a thing

Can you help me out with that? I'm not sure how to really search for members here or send a PM here at all, unless they were to reply to this post/thread.

posted on September 14th, 2010, 10:23 pm

Simple click the tab that says "My Messages", hit "New Message", type in "Optec" or "Doca Cola" into "To", type in whatever you want for the rest. It's just like email, which I'm sure you use

posted on September 14th, 2010, 10:38 pm

Simple click the tab that says "My Messages", hit "New Message", type in "Optec" or "Doca Cola" into "To", type in whatever you want for the rest. It's just like email, which I'm sure you use

Alright, message sent, I sent the same message to them by sending it to multiple contacts.


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Does anyone have anymore suggestions that could involve a way to fix the USS Defiant, the Defiant-class and the warship.odf?

posted on September 14th, 2010, 10:41 pm

Yeah, those all seem to be the same crash(I don't know about the romulan one though)



Hmmm, so does this crash occur only when this ship blows up?

Interesting...

I will try some more things, but it does seem it is localized to this one ship.




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Here try this.*shrugs*  I am just guessing at this point, but we can narrow it down this way.

Thank you for the file, I'm about to try that in game when I get some time, right now I have a few other assignments I'm taking care of.

[jetnova16]

posted on September 14th, 2010, 11:09 pm

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I found alittle time in between all the other things I've been doing to try the warship.odf file by Adm. Zaxxon, but the Game Still Crashes. Attached are the new screenshot and bugreport.

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posted on September 14th, 2010, 11:40 pm

Hmm, well are you completely destroying the ship?  and are you force attacking it?  does it still crash if you just send the ship to the enemy and let them blow it up?

This is an odd bug.