Breen Prototypes

posted on July 9th, 2009, 12:56 am

Is this a better 3D map for you?  It isn't verry big, but it is 3D.

Or this one that isn't 3D

or this one

posted on July 9th, 2009, 5:19 am

The Breen hold their space somewhere between Romulan and Cardassian space... or somewhere in the Alpha Quadrant. But it still doesn't explain why such high resource costs. Is all that supply anti-freeze for their AC suits? 

Not between Romulan and Cardassian (thats the Federation). The Breen are to the left of the Cardassians.

And I'd have to agree, why prototypes for Breen? How about you research the Design or something?

Here's a map of the Alfa Quadrant. Romulans are int the Beta!

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posted on July 9th, 2009, 12:06 pm

I don't know, maybe if it is suposed to be in the gamma quadrant, then they should have to warpin/wormhole in breen ships, or in the alpha quadrant, it would be opposite, instead of prototypes.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 12:29 pm

The Breen, apparently an Alpha Quadrent power: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Breen

posted on July 9th, 2009, 1:42 pm

yep the breen (also their NP faction part) will use a similar techtree system as the dominion does, therefore they do also deploy prototypes.

posted on July 10th, 2009, 4:05 am

Here are mine, first from the start of the General War (in my timeline, 2282 C.E.):



Then from two years after the destruction of Romulus and Remus:

[Tyler]

posted on July 10th, 2009, 10:15 am

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yep the breen (also their NP faction part) will use a similar techtree system as the dominion does, therefore they do also deploy prototypes.

So 2 seperate races that never met (until the war), have 2 seperate societies, completly different technology, methods and virtually nothing in common both use an identical style of designing ships?

posted on July 10th, 2009, 10:54 am

Here are mine, first from the start of the General War (in my timeline, 2282 C.E.):

Your map seems to bite with nearly every other map, even with the SFC2 Hex-Map ^^

posted on July 10th, 2009, 11:24 am

Your map seems to bite with nearly every other map, even with the SFC2 Hex-Map ^^

I might add that while the Tamarian Republic's resemblance to Iran and the Klingon Empire's resemblance to the Soviet Union in the 2389 map are both entirely accidental, I think they turned out that way for a reason 

posted on July 10th, 2009, 3:35 pm

I dunno, Sao i mostly like your maps; they're pretty awesome. Just the same issue i seem to have with just about all of them. The lack of a cardassian/romulan border. Otherwise, very cool. How'd you make them?

posted on July 10th, 2009, 7:44 pm

I dunno, Sao i mostly like your maps; they're pretty awesome. Just the same issue i seem to have with just about all of them. The lack of a cardassian/romulan border. Otherwise, very cool. How'd you make them?

Sketched them on notebook paper and traced over the lines in Photoshop after scanning them in. Not too difficult.

As for the Cardassian/Romulan border, considering how quickly the Dominion expanded into Federation space, I don't think one is necessary to explain the Jem'Hadar's use of the Neutral Zone during the war.

posted on July 10th, 2009, 8:48 pm

See i dunno about that... With the exception of a few bordering areas i never saw the dominion war as a blitzkrieg WW2 type of conflict... It seems more like a Schlieffen plan WW1 style. Stuck in a trench with exception seizures of critical systems as the exceptions. Betazed, Chintoka, Benzar and ofcourse DS9 itself. but i dont think that it shifted wildly deep into either side's territory.

posted on July 10th, 2009, 9:13 pm

See i dunno about that... With the exception of a few bordering areas i never saw the dominion war as a blitzkrieg WW2 type of conflict... It seems more like a Schlieffen plan WW1 style. Stuck in a trench with exception seizures of critical systems as the exceptions. Betazed, Chintoka, Benzar and ofcourse DS9 itself. but i dont think that it shifted wildly deep into either side's territory.

Not sure I agree with you there. The Cardassian Union and Breen Confederacy are both Alpha Quadrant powers with apparently no holdings in the Beta Quadrant. However, the Coridan system, which was attacked and besieged by the Dominion, is located in the Beta Quadrant. A siege could not be sustained without secure supply lines to the blockading force to reinforce it against outside attack, implying that the Dominion held territory up to the Beta Quadrant line - probably a significant distance from Cardassia and Breen space.

Considering also the scope of the war, with tens of thousands of ships and a large number of diffuse star systems involved, and considering the implicit daring of Operation Return, the Battle of Betazed, and the final assault on Cardassian territory, it all suggests a large swath of the Alpha Quadrant and some of the Beta Quadrant was directly impacted by the war. (Also in keeping with the scope of the General War in the SFU.)

posted on July 10th, 2009, 11:48 pm

Geography in trek is a mess...
http://files.getdropbox.com/u/35068/Stupidmap.jpg

We know the majority of the CU is in Alpha, but we dont know if it (like the UFP) crosses the A/B border... To show just how silly this is


Red Planets fell to the Dom. Yellow were attacked. Green are planets threatened by the fall of the reds... Uh what? Benzar but not Trill? Etc. Also i rewatched the ep, i dont think its characterized as a seige just attacks... We know the planet was rather grandly depopulated by romulans... So, yea i cant see it resisting a seige very well, but i can see its mines being a rather easy target for dominion raiders.

posted on July 11th, 2009, 3:56 am

Yeah, the Star Charts map is a big mess...all the problems with it considering how often it's used as a definitive source sort of prompted me to embark on this project (as did doing a series of General War screenshots over at A2Files), which I think projects a more sensible overall view of the Dominion War.

A map of the same area circa 2371, before the outbreak of the Klingon-Cardassian and Klingon-Federation Wars as well as the Dominion War proper: