Cardassians - again I know but...

posted on June 11th, 2009, 2:48 am

Even if their part in the storyline is only small, I would still like to see them as a playable race... whether that be as an Avatar including a few ships and features for another race, or as a full fledged race of their own, I don't mind too much.

posted on June 11th, 2009, 2:52 am

Yes well, I suppose there is the argument that says, If you don't like them, Don't use them.  They may make great cannon fodder, either way.

posted on June 11th, 2009, 1:43 pm

Wow thanks everyone the responce to this has been huge
OK a few things Id like to say to justify/apologise for ressureccting this convo again

- gentle push
Darthashur thanks for your support. This is I hope my respectful way of nagging the team (who have given me so much gaming joy)

- alliences/subrace
Ta very much RYDERSTORM and everyone else
Alliences could get a bit goofy and they'd only make sence as a subrace for the Dominion. If the Dominion get a third Avatar I'd love it to be Son'a

- non playable race
Thanks Serpicus  & Dominus_Noctis. Yup I have seen this from Optec but, i think you can guess what I'd prefer

- War weary
Cheers quaddmgtech and everyone else who pointed this out. Your right the Cardassians did worst in the dominion war but let's not forget the Klingons did very badly as well (being the only ones who could fight and having a crap stratergy for a while)
Also they're not *total* cannon fodder they've had two long and costly wars with the federation. Conflicts that the Feds certainly didn't enjoy

Oh and Tyler that's a big check Underdogs for the win!

posted on June 11th, 2009, 3:01 pm

Oh one other idea I had: given the cardassian love of rigging pressure granades to useful looking items when they withdraw perhaps one Cardassian ability might be rigging a structure so that if destroyed there is a mega explosion causing damage or a special shockwave disabling all engines or sensors in the area
This would be an extra cost and have a limited use count (like some mixed tech)

Again this would be in keeping with the sneaky tactics and make players think twice before assualting the "weaker" cardies.

posted on June 12th, 2009, 10:35 pm

maybe just to make avatar in dominion
i vote for obsidian order agent it sounds awsome
the next thing people will ask is ferengi race xD
mmmm

posted on June 12th, 2009, 11:06 pm

Ok, the cardasians FAIL!!  , ok now that that is done, I'm surprised that people want them in the game, because (even tho they had the best music ) they were the least used race in the game.

In stock, they just blew. Their balance was totally shot. I could beat up on the stock AI playing any race but Cardassian; even the AI stupidity wasn't always enough to make up for the fact that Cardassians were no easier to fast-track to endgame or spam than, say, the Klingons or Feds, whose ships did way more damage and had way better defense.

And unfortunately, in my present build, they're a bit too easy to fast-track and spam. Hmm.

posted on June 12th, 2009, 11:39 pm

Oh one other idea I had: given the cardassian love of rigging pressure granades to useful looking items when they withdraw perhaps one Cardassian ability might be rigging a structure so that if destroyed there is a mega explosion causing damage or a special shockwave disabling all engines or sensors in the area
This would be an extra cost and have a limited use count (like some mixed tech)

Again this would be in keeping with the sneaky tactics and make players think twice before assualting the "weaker" cardies.

Or how bout if u capture a cradie ship you have an unknown chance of it blowing up at some point for no reason due to them sabotaging it before it was captured.....Also they have got to have the dreadnought misile. Cardassian intelligence was quite good(well the obsidian order was anyways) so perhaps they could have covert ops teams as well......perhaps infiltrate and line of sight powers?