Command Cube at Wolf 359???

posted on June 8th, 2010, 3:28 pm

the cube in first contact could launch a sphere and had the queen on it therefore its a command cube
fyi the *picard flashback* the queen said "u think in 3dimentions how small u have become" and so in my mind she may not have been on the ship and just be a transwarp holo projection (U0 again wot she did for that cow whos name i cant spell to contact voyager and chat to the queen in here hub)

posted on June 8th, 2010, 3:29 pm

The queen is not really relevant to the FO timeline - she's there, she's just not some uber important dominatrix figure.

Plus, she also prefers the Diamond over the Cube.

posted on June 9th, 2010, 2:57 pm

Plus, she also prefers the Diamond over the Cube.

typical woman

posted on June 9th, 2010, 3:13 pm

the cube in first contact could launch a sphere and had the queen on it therefore its a command cube
fyi the *picard flashback* the queen said "u think in 3dimentions how small u have become" and so in my mind she may not have been on the ship and just be a transwarp holo projection (U0 again wot she did for that cow whos name i cant spell to contact voyager and chat to the queen in here hub)

I really feel that the "flashback sequences" werent all necessarily flashbacks. They really could have been representations of what it is like to be apart of the collective. The imagery shown is the best way to represent how it would "feel" all the minds connected as one. It makes sense that picard would have felt her presence and heard her thoughts since the minds of the borg are all linked. She wouldnt need to be there for that.


Ill play devils advocate though and say that in FC it also seems the borg have limits to how far their minds can still connect. The group of borg surviving the spheres destruction obviously couldnt conntact the Borg in the delta quadrant because they were building a beacon on the enterprise deflector dish to do that very thing. The Borg in the delta quadrant may not have been advanced enough yet to sustain a collective link over great distances. But that raises the question is there canon onscreen evidence to prove or disprove whether the borg can link over great distances?

posted on June 9th, 2010, 3:18 pm

Drones have never been show to be capable, with each ship being a mini-collective. A Cube may be powerful enough to sustain a link to the main system, but nothing has been shown for that, either.

[Haemoclysm]

posted on June 9th, 2010, 4:23 pm

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Ok, here's my two cents.
I agree that the Cube in BoBW and First contact may be 'command Cubes'; such ideas don't bother me, just because canon doesn't explicitly say this, we as fans or whatever need to use some artistic license in such matters. I mean, I think there have been many times when canon hasn't been as strict to itself (especially across different series) as some people try to be now, and so as long as we stay true to what is an acceptable take on the Trek universe, its fine. That leads me to my next point. The sphere that is found in ST:ENT Regeneration is said to be ~600m in diameter. I think this is an oversight by the story writers whilst trying to link with First Contact; who said that it was a normal Sphere leaving the exploding Cube? It makes more sense to me that the Cube was normal sized, as was the BoBW one. The Sphere leaving it was a small version that had the rare components required to time travel. Being what it was, it was weak in offence and defence, probably couldn't go to Warp etc. That's why it needed an escorting Cube; the special sphere can travel through time but not across space (at any great speed atleast).

Edit: Bad seplling 

posted on June 9th, 2010, 7:04 pm

Idk if i have aready said this or not but your borg emblem is really cool did you find it somewhere or did you make it yourself??

On topic I believe that most people think that the borg ship in FC is larger than a normal cube but the sphere that it launches is suppose to be smaller than a regular one as well.

posted on June 9th, 2010, 7:46 pm

Idk if i have aready said this or not but your borg emblem is really cool did you find it somewhere or did you make it yourself??

I don't think you've asked before but yes I made it myself. The actual one I made had a white background that didn't match this forum's background, so I literally opened it in MS Paint and inverted it to good effect.

On topic I believe that most people think that the borg ship in FC is larger than a normal cube but the sphere that it launches is suppose to be smaller than a regular one as well.

The problem with the Sphere with respect to canon is the fact that in ST:ENT Regeneration, they say its the same size as a normal Sphere (600m diameter), which must be wrong.

[Tyler]

posted on June 9th, 2010, 7:50 pm

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It is an inconsitency, but maybe not by the writers (probably was). The First Contact sphere was 457 meters in diameter (Memory Alpha, background section), but the early researchers were estimating based on a small amount of wreckage.

posted on June 9th, 2010, 8:58 pm

Plus it only took one volley from the Big E to destroy it of course it could have been damaged when the cube blew.

posted on June 9th, 2010, 9:16 pm

BoBW

DQ Races

  What in the world is BoBW and DQ races ?

Bet you guys expect for everyone to understand these "I'm too lazy to write" things.

posted on June 9th, 2010, 9:25 pm

I think the first one is an acromy for the first time the ent d fought the borg.
The second one is


Delta Quadrant

posted on June 9th, 2010, 9:26 pm

Yep, Best of both Worlds and Delta Quadrent.

Notice the bold letters.

posted on June 10th, 2010, 5:11 pm

I think the first one is an acromy for the first time the ent d fought the borg.

that was Q-Who

the episode referred to (as tyler has correctly identified) is TNG: The Best of Both Worlds, everyone drops the article (the) and makes an acronym as the title is rather long. but what a fantastic episode. i wish i was alive when it was first aired.

posted on June 10th, 2010, 6:54 pm

I should go watch all the tng episodes....