Project: Federation ship names in batches

[Triarii]

posted on December 24th, 2008, 1:59 pm

Last edited by Triarii on January 4th, 2009, 9:42 am, edited 1 time in total.

Hello everyone... As you may or may not know, Federation ships are, in the latest version of Fleet Ops, no longer all picking from the same big list of names... However, if you look in the odf files, you'll see that the list for each class of ship is identical, so the ships are in effect, all still picking from the same list, leading to bizarre situations where all your Mandrills have dramatic names like "Victory" and "Protege" and so on or a Sabre and a Descent share the same name...

This, to me, is unacceptable... As such, I am starting a project in which I hope to alter the odf files for each class to give each class a unique list of names...

However, often when people try to arrange lists like these, they degenerate into confused messes, with repeated, misplaced and downright stupid names cropping up all over the place, prime examples of which can be seen in an old thread on this forum simply entitled "nitpicking"...

That's where the title of this thread comes in... One useful thing the "nitpicking" thread accomplished was user T-Man's statement that he had always thought of Trek ships as being built in "batches", with each "batch" based around a certain theme... This game me an idea... By dividing up the names for each class into small "batches" (with maybe five to ten ships each, though the exact number would be free to vary), we could make the process far less unwieldy and confusing by grouping all the names of a certain "type" into the same place...

Now, what I need you, my fellow Fleet Ops forumers to do is help me gather the lists of ship names... I will list the names we currently have at the bottom of this post, editing it with new names (and perhaps deleting old ones) periodically... You can either suggest a name that would fit with an already established "theme", or you could suggest an entirely new theme, preferably with at least several names to start it off... You can debate your fellow forumers over certain names, or even entire themes... If you don't like a name or theme, feel free to let me know... Also, if you would like to support someone's call for a specific name or theme or their call to have a specific name or theme moved or removed, feel free to do so as this will lend strength to the original sentiment... Hopefully, over time we'll end up with plenty of names for each class...

With all that in mind, examine the preliminary list below and come out suggesting!


Preliminary list of theme based Federation ship names for Fleet Ops:


Akira class:

"Famous warships" theme:

USS Hornet
USS Thunderchild
USS Hood
USS Bismarck
USS Yamato
USS Repulse


Descent class:

"Grandstand" theme:

USS Federation
USS Star Union
USS Star League
USS Leviathan
USS Gigantic
USS Titanic
USS Olympic


Mediterranean class:

"Famous engineers" theme:

USS Archemedis
USS Scott
USS Watt
USS Bazalgette

"Famous inventors" theme:

USS Edison
USS Bell
USS Baird
USS Reyga (the Ferengi guy who invented metaphasic shields)
USS Soong


Nebula class:

"Famous universities" theme:

USS Oxford
USS Cambridge
USS Harvard
USS Yale
USS Stanford
USS Princeton

"Famous scientists" theme:

USS Einstein
USS Curie
USS Newton
USS Galilei
USS Darwin
USS Pasteur
USS Daystrom
USS Higgs
USS Galen


Norway class:

"Northern European countries" theme:

USS Norway
USS Sweden
USS Finland
USS Denmark
USS Poland
USS Belgium
USS Holland


Galaxy class:

"Explorer" theme:

USS Explorer
USS Traveler
USS Wanderer
USS Ranger
USS Discovery

"Galaxies" theme:

USS Andromeda
USS Centaurus
USS Fornax
USS Maffei
USS Tucana
USS Ursa
USS Sculptor
USS Circinus


Sabre class:

Melee weapons:

USS Épée (would the accent marks work inside the game?)
USS Broadsword
USS Katana
USS Rapier
USS Halberd
USS Scimitar
USS Trident
USS Falx


Sovereign class:

"We can accomplish things" theme:

USS Endeavor
USS Illustrious
USS Indefatigable
USS Constitution

"Homeworlds" theme: (for the most part shamelessly taken from Memory Alpha)

USS Terra
USS Andoria
USS Vulcan
USS Tellar
USS Ferasa (the native name for what is known as Cait, the home planet of TASes lieutenant M'Ress)
USS Efros Delta (the home planet of the Federation president from the Undiscovered Country)
USS Bolarus
USS Betazed
USS Rigel
USS Trill (whilst it's never been offically stated that Trill is a Federation member, I just wanted a nice even ten)


"Royalty" theme:

USS Majestic
USS Emperor
USS Regency
USS Vizier
USS Commonwealth


Steamrunner class:

"Siege weapons" theme:

USS Ballista
USS Trebuchet
USS Crossbow
USS Mangonel
USS Scorpion
USS Serpentine

"Mountain ranges" theme:

USS Appalachia
USS Himalayas
USS Ural
USS Andes

General (for themes not assigned to any particular class. These will be spread amongst a number of different classes):

"Great cities" theme:

USS Paris
USS London
USS Moscow
USS Washington
USS Sydney
USS Berlin

Unassigned (for themes yet to be assigned to anything. Feel free to suggest where these should go.):

"Mythical creatures" theme:

USS Minotaur
USS Centaur
USS Gryphon
USS Sphynx
USS Manticore

So, got any ideas?


Issue votes:

These are issues regarding the list that I have decided to put to a vote...


Issue 1: Should we use the names of weapons (trebuchet, ballista, broadsword, halberd, etc.) as the names of some of the ships on this new list?


Yes: 4
No: 0
Abstain: 0


Issue 2: Should the "great cities" theme (Paris, London, Moscow, etc.) apply to Sovereigns (as I suggested) or Excelsior IIs (as penumbra suggested)?

Sovereigns: 1
Excelsior IIs: 0
Other (specifiy): 3
Abstain: 1

posted on December 24th, 2008, 3:34 pm

in sfc3 i had a miranda class ship with the name "USS Bremen", and i loved it, cause its the name of my hometown

i like the idea 

PS: that will be the name of my ship in STO if it ever comes out, and if we're able to name the ships

posted on December 24th, 2008, 4:59 pm

If your going to do that, you might as well add registries to them. A file on FileFront has registries for several ships (Like the Galaxy, Nebula, Akira, etc.), while the others in the file could be adapted for the other FO ships.

posted on December 24th, 2008, 5:15 pm

Also, the names of the federation vessels could be also from somewhere else than earth. Examples: U.S.S. Khitomer, U.S.S. Sirius

posted on December 24th, 2008, 5:16 pm

Sovereign's need names relating to royalty and great leaders.

[penumbra]

posted on December 24th, 2008, 6:21 pm

Last edited by penumbra on December 24th, 2008, 6:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.

IMO the "great cities" theme should be for Excelsior II vessels!

Add USS Daystrom and USS Scott to "famous scientists"!

I agree with Tyler on the royality/leader connection regarding the Sovereign class.

Also I'd love to have some Earth-related names that are not just covering the Western hemisphere. (USS Kyoto, USS Cape Town, USS Uluru, USS Sahara, USS Brazil, USS Hakaru,...)

I'd also love a "mythology theme", maybe for the Intrepid class (since there already is an USS Bellerophon. (USS Hermes, USS Amaterasu, USS Shiva, USS Quezacoatl, USS Dryad,...)

Maybe the Defiant class could spot a "famous battlesites" theme? (USS Khitomer, USS Waterloo, USS Pearl Harbor, USS Teutoburg,...)

Oh, and did I mention that I LOVE the idea?

posted on December 24th, 2008, 6:38 pm

Yeah this is awesome, I'm just trying to think of names as I write this post....

Maybe for some of the more sciencey ships, name them after particles, so say the USS Quark/Boson/Lepton/Meson/Proton/Neutron/Positron Etc, get the idea? Just ask me again if you want more, but  just google "standard model" and you should get some. Also either in this batch or the scientist batch we need the USS Higgs, fellow physicists here will know why.

posted on December 24th, 2008, 7:39 pm

USS Tewkesbury? The site of the Battle of Tewkesbury and the 'Bloody Meadow'.

posted on December 24th, 2008, 7:47 pm

Sabre Class - Melee Combat Weapon Names
USS Arondight
USS Caladbolg

etc
Sword - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Akira Class:
Well Known Naval Warships fictional or otherwise.
USS Hornet
USS Thunderchild


Caravel Class
Famous Merchants
USS Marco Polo

Monsoon -
Emotions
USS Hatred

[Triarii]

posted on December 25th, 2008, 4:31 am

Last edited by Triarii on December 25th, 2008, 4:57 am, edited 1 time in total.

OK, based on what I've read so far, I've decided to do the following...

1: Split the "weapons" category up so that the Steamrunner will retain "siege weapons" (ballista, trebuchet, etc.), while the Sabre will gain the "melee weapons" theme...

2: Add penumbra and unlashed mayhem's suggestions to the "famous scientists" category, along with Galen (for both the Greek physician and the guy in TNG who discovered the genetic puzzle thing), for a total of 12 so far... We could add more (Watt, Joule, Volta and Ohm all come to mind) but if we get too many it might be worth it to make a second "famous scientists" list, maybe for the Remore class...

3: Add fullphaser's "naval warships" category, if only because this "theme" is somewhat canon...

4: Add a "famous engineers" category for the Mediterranean class...

5: Add a "royalty" theme for the Sovereign class, as per Tyler's suggestion.

I am, however, not really sold on Fullphaser's "famous merchants" or "emotions" suggestions, 'nor am I sold on penumbra's "mythology" or "famous battlesites" or Unleashed Mayhem's "particles"... I'll need more people backing these themes before I add them to the list...

I am also considering adding two "place name" categories, one for planets and one for stars, but I'm not sure which classes these should go with...

I also think that the question of wether the "great cities" category should apply to the Sovy or Excelsior II (or indeed some other class) should be put to a vote... So far there's one vote for Excelsior II and I will abstain from the vote...

EDIT: Moved "USS Scott" to the Med's "famous engineers", meaning there are now only 11 in "famous scientists"

[Tyler]

posted on December 25th, 2008, 5:49 am

Last edited by Tyler on December 25th, 2008, 12:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

As far as I know, Star Trek uses fictional names as well as real (USS Thunderchild, USS Akira?). That could help get more names.

Sovereign Names:

• USS K'mpec, after the longest-living Chancellor in Klingon history.
• USS Gorkon, after the Klingon Chancellor who pursued peace with the Federation (as the Excelsior one will likely be out of service by now)
• USS Martok, I'm sure any Trekkie would know who Chancellor Martok is.

posted on December 25th, 2008, 1:49 pm

As far as I know, Star Trek uses fictional names as well as real (USS Thunderchild, USS Akira?). That could help get more names.

I know, I was already using Thunderchild, Scott (as in Montgomery Scott) and Daystrom (the famous holography guy we never meet)... Akira, however, is actually Japanese for "Brightness"... "Steamrunner", on the other hand...

posted on December 25th, 2008, 1:53 pm

The Akira Class was named after a Japanese animated film of the same name (hence the fictional bit), and the Streamrunner but Steamrunner was originally Steamrunner but was changed for unknown reasons.

[Fullphaser]

posted on December 25th, 2008, 2:04 pm

Last edited by Fullphaser on December 25th, 2008, 2:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The Steamrunner in theory was named for Fold Zandura - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 's song of the same name but someone in the studio dropped an 'r' for unknown reasons. If that's true and the Appalachia is a standard name, than naming the poor things after mountain ranges is not all to bad an idea. The problem with this is that the second "named" steamrunner has nothing to do with a mountain range at all, in fact it has more to do with an atomic bomb.

That having been said, if we are sticking to that theory than Sabre's should be named after test pilots.

Could also just borrow from this:
United States Navy ships - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I mean lets face it, the names they are using are either going to be related to Star Trek or British / US forces's ships

posted on December 25th, 2008, 2:15 pm

A lot of Starships are named after foreign people, places, and ships (USS Yamato - named for the Japanese Battleship Yamato).