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posted on September 13th, 2009, 1:43 pm

Not that I think one should be in, but since we seem to have 2 II-line ships, Is there a Constitution-II in the FO universe? Just wondering, because being a war game, we don't get to see what the federation is doing "30 years" after DS9. Ahh, mabey I don't care, I'm just trying to fill up this topic, so it dosen't look stupid :b. Ok, what the federation is doing would be interesting, but you probably haven't thought about that, other than exploring. ANYWAY. That has nothing to do with the part I want to know... is there a Constitution-II. (I'm not one of those people, if there are any, that thinks FO should be a starfleet ship collection. Thanks for enduring this little rant .)

posted on September 13th, 2009, 2:27 pm

There may be a Constitution-II, considering the originals legendary status.

posted on September 13th, 2009, 11:38 pm

Really?

What did the USS Constitution to gain legendary status? 

Oh, you mean that other Constitution-class starship... The... Uhhh... What was its name?

posted on September 13th, 2009, 11:54 pm

Hahaha yeah cant remember its name either.

if you want to see what the federation looks like 30 years after nemisis just look at the Ships of the Line from STO.

The only thing is if the Constitution II was made, all the other races need something equivilant to balance numbers.

posted on September 13th, 2009, 11:56 pm

As I wrote, I don't think we need a constitution II in FO, but is there one? (in FO. :b)

But, if it does, we will clearly need a fusion cube to balace things

posted on September 14th, 2009, 12:15 am

Probably no one would agree on either of these that I'd like.

Kelvin II Class:

The Saucer would basically be the same, but the turrets are replaced with 3 dorsal phaser strips (stretching all around the saucer) and 2 ventral phaser strips (stretching all around the saucer). The Nacelle (at the bottom for those who get confused) would become a slightly modified version of a Sovy nacelle with a torpedo pod attached to its fore (just infront of the nacelle pylon). The Engineering would be replaced with a Premonition style deflector (the huge thing on top) that has phaser strips travelling along the sides and a large shuttle bay built into it.

Discovery II Class:

Okay, this is a wee bit tricky, but I'm gonna go with an Excelsior-II style saucer. The Nacelles would be shaped like the old Connie refit nacelles except it be given 24-th century bussards along the sides and there the whole exterior side would be the intercooler strip and at the end would basically be a little cap with some large thrusters on the inner side. And I think it is pretty much good.

posted on September 14th, 2009, 2:46 am

oh yeah, kelvin mark 2

posted on September 14th, 2009, 7:01 am

I like the (Mk II's) already present in the mod but I believe if executed right most of those suggestions could be quite nice.

posted on September 14th, 2009, 2:57 pm

Personally I don't think you can get too much better than a Kelvin MK-II like how I described.

Kelvin II Class:

The Saucer would basically be the same, but the turrets are replaced with 3 dorsal phaser strips (stretching all around the saucer) and 2 ventral phaser strips (stretching all around the saucer). The Nacelle (at the bottom for those who get confused) would become a slightly modified version of a Sovy nacelle with a torpedo pod attached to its fore (just infront of the nacelle pylon). The Engineering would be replaced with a Premonition style deflector (the huge thing on top) that has phaser strips travelling along the sides and a large shuttle bay built into it.

But I wouldn't mind if a modeler would try to take a crack at it. Someday it deserves being in FO.

posted on September 14th, 2009, 4:22 pm

Not that I think one should be in, but since we seem to have 2 II-line ships, Is there a Constitution-II in the FO universe? Just wondering, because being a war game, we don't get to see what the federation is doing "30 years" after DS9. Ahh, mabey I don't care, I'm just trying to fill up this topic, so it dosen't look stupid :b. Ok, what the federation is doing would be interesting, but you probably haven't thought about that, other than exploring. ANYWAY. That has nothing to do with the part I want to know... is there a Constitution-II. (I'm not one of those people, if there are any, that thinks FO should be a starfleet ship collection. Thanks for enduring this little rant .)

Umm correct me if i'm wrong but there is a constitution II class. And it's the Enterprise A from TMP Era. The original constitution being the TOS era Enterprise, the one with the Direct TV deflector dish.

posted on September 14th, 2009, 4:31 pm

I thought that was just a refit? Anyway i think a Constitution mk 2 would be cool. And very fitting

posted on September 14th, 2009, 4:51 pm

I thought that was just a refit? Anyway i think a Constitution mk 2 would be cool. And very fitting

I thought it was a refit also, but I also read somewhere that wasn't the case. Sadly I don't remember where I saw this. But I think it was one of the Star Trek technical manuals.... Does anyone know for sure?

posted on September 14th, 2009, 5:02 pm

The Constitution is generally considered a Refit, just check Memory Alpha. Going by looks alone, you'd think it was more like the Miranda/Excelsior II...

Constitution Class

posted on September 14th, 2009, 5:08 pm

2 choices i can see.

1. Either it was built from scratch as a refit constituion, because it obviously is the same class as the original Enterprise. So it is not a Constitution II.

2. It was an original Constitution that was refitted and then renamed Enterprise, like the new defiant.

posted on September 14th, 2009, 5:20 pm

The Constitution is generally considered a Refit, just check Memory Alpha. Going by looks alone, you'd think it was more like the Miranda/Excelsior II...

Constitution Class

Ah, thanks for the info Tyler.