(ship)-II,

posted on September 14th, 2009, 5:30 pm

So, it is all about a new Connie? What about other ships like the Kelvin, or Starempire classes?

posted on September 14th, 2009, 5:34 pm

Starempire class?

[Tyler]

posted on September 14th, 2009, 5:37 pm

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I think that is another name for the Federation Class... The Constitution-like ship with the Shuttlebay/Deflector switched around, shorter Nacelle Pylons and a thrid Nacelle on the Saucer Section. With a TMP-era version that is the same except for the Shuttlebay/Deflector switch.

I can't find an entry for a Star Empire Class on Memory Alpha, Memory Beta, ST Expanded Universe or even Memory Gamma...

posted on September 14th, 2009, 5:51 pm

I think that is another name for the Federation Class... The Constitution-like ship with the Shuttlebay/Deflector switched around, shorter Nacelle Pylons and a thrid Nacelle on the Saucer Section. With a TMP-era version that is the same except for the Shuttlebay/Deflector switch.

I can't find an entry for a Star Empire Class on Memory Alpha, Memory Beta, ST Expanded Universe or even Memory Gamma...

awesome, thanks again for the info Tyler. You are an expert and a gentlemen...

posted on September 14th, 2009, 5:59 pm

I thought it was a refit also, but I also read somewhere that wasn't the case. Sadly I don't remember where I saw this. But I think it was one of the Star Trek technical manuals.... Does anyone know for sure?

If the Enterprise/ Enterprise-A were Constitution-IIs, then the Enterprise-E would have been a Soverign II, because the angle of the warp nacel conectors were changed.

And you went through all that for a two word internet question Tyler?  lol good job. I didn't even know about the last two...

posted on September 14th, 2009, 6:47 pm

Both the TMP Enterprise and the Enterprise-A are Constitution-R, "R" for refit. It's the hull of a Constitution-class starship with a major systems overhaul: sensors, weapons, engines, transporters, etc.

NCC-1701-A was a previous in-service Constitution class starship that was refitted and changed its name.

There is no mention of a Constitution-II in canon. Ever.

posted on September 14th, 2009, 6:54 pm

Well I was hoping for a Kelvin-II because I like its design. But so far noone else seems to even care...

posted on September 14th, 2009, 6:58 pm

Just keep trying, sometimes a little patience and persistance can work wonders. As long as you don't push too far.

posted on September 14th, 2009, 7:30 pm

I liked the Kelvin, but It just doesnt seem like a design that would still be used. like the freedom class.

posted on September 14th, 2009, 7:34 pm

The 2 are probably related... maybe the (rather likely) discontinued Freedom Class is the most recent descendant of the Kelvin?

A modern version would be good in a similar role to the Saber...

posted on September 14th, 2009, 7:37 pm

A Kelvin II type proably would be cool, but I only saw one in Star Trek XI. Compared to seeing the Constitution from probably every possible angle, given the known laws of physics . Although, I guess it dosen't matter wether I have seen the Constitution more than the Kelvin, because it would be a new ship. Apperently, also, it is a Kelvin type, not a class, IDK the difference.

posted on September 14th, 2009, 7:40 pm

A Kelvin II type proably would be cool, but I only saw one in Star Trek XI. Compared to seeing the Constitution from probably every possible angle, given the known laws of physics . Although, I guess it dosen't matter wether I have seen the Constitution more than the Kelvin, because it would be a new ship. Apperently, also, it is a Kelvin type, not a class, IDK the difference.

Ugh.... it's like the Valdore, Norexian thing all over again...

posted on September 14th, 2009, 7:47 pm

Wait, there's a NorexIan class now too?

Just kidding

posted on September 14th, 2009, 7:56 pm

Wait, there's a NorexIan class now too?

Just kidding

lol

posted on September 14th, 2009, 9:56 pm

exept type/class is much less debateable... just saw it was type from memory alpha, trying to get a good picture of it
(also, there was the thing about the intrepid type, which was not the intrepid class in FO, mabey there is a Kelvin class )