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posted on July 1st, 2009, 4:00 pm
There could be a mixed-tech vessel. There arent many crewmen in a (e.g.) federation ship, but one single organism, which lives in symbiosis with the ship.
posted on July 1st, 2009, 5:48 pm
blazing_gig wrote:These races ARE what the devs want...it's their mod, based on a storyline that they've already got. Personally, I'd choose Noxter over both Ferengi and Cardassians as they provide a far more interesting form of gameplay besides another "build a yard, build research stations, build ships" ethos - more variety is more fun in my opinion. Besides that, Star Trek is all about new life forms, heck it says that in the opening credits of two of the shows!

Also, it was never said in any of the shows that Species 8472 behave in a similar way to how the Noxter do...all we've seen of them is that they use bio-engineered ships - it's never explicitly said whether they're the same species as the pilots and whether they're born or constructed.


Anyway, back on topic - looks amazing Optec, I liked playing as Noxter in Beta 2 (heck, still do sometimes :P) and hopefully this will make them even more fun to play!


Seriously no startrek fan or whoever that follows it a bit will take any made up race over a startrek race... that would just make no sense.

If they want to add an organic species add Species 8472 as they actually are included in startrek.

Adding in non-existing races only makes it a non-startrek game... if the developers want this they should leave startrek and make a new mod on another game or even better try and make a game they want.

Also stop the asskissing at the ending of your postings.... seriously...

nathanj wrote:@sideeffect.  its the modders perogative to add whatever they want to add.  i was relieved when the dominion was added as the last race instead of the noxter since i have no interest in the noxter whatsoever, however they are making the mod so they can do whatever the hell they want.

i personally will just keep playing the normal races like normal but many people would like to see something new and different.

hell......if it were up to me i would have star wars units added as some sort of interuniversal war of some kind,  and the federations biggest secret weapon would be tribbles.  but thats just me.

keep up the good work im having lots of fun again now that they fixed the save game explosion thing in teh latest patch.

hint hint hint.........tribbles would make awesome secret weapons


wtf are you thinking ? putting someone off to look good in the eyes of the developers because you think they are supreme beings ? (maybe they are the noxters themselves ?)

stop the asskissing please.... this is startrek....


Just because Optec and DOCa Cola are developing it doesn't mean they can just make whatever they want. They can try and force it but they will lose the mod to inactivity as many of the mods have done.

Also it wouldn't be ''pure startrek'' it would be a made up story that wouldn't make much sense.


If these noxters are going to end up in this mod at least give the option to set Normal Story and Fleetops Story which just enable the custom race's as i like all the other aspects of the game.
posted on July 1st, 2009, 5:53 pm
Seriously no startrek fan or whoever that follows it a bit will take any made up race over a startrek race... that would just make no sense.
I consider myself a big fan of star trek, but they fucked some things up... Their last big hit were the borg, all other big franchises overtook them in many many categories. Still loving it, but, they also saw some mistakes - or would you create a film, that changes the history of your whole universe many years after thre first?
posted on July 1st, 2009, 5:54 pm
ah... forgot to mention it: Discussion about Star Trek itself sucks on this place. Yust wanted to say if the new race is implemented well and gives fo another charming touch, I welcome it.
posted on July 1st, 2009, 5:59 pm
Last edited by Optec on July 1st, 2009, 6:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Hm, i don't see where there is pure Star Trek in Fleet Operations, as every race has many of our own designs.
But of course, nobody is forced to play as or against the Noxter, you can still have your heroic Dominion War battles ^-^ I don't see a problem here

oh and, please, stay polite and don't insult others
posted on July 1st, 2009, 6:17 pm
Mikeltje wrote:Seriously no startrek fan or whoever that follows it a bit will take any made up race over a startrek race... that would just make no sense.

If they want to add an organic species add Species 8472 as they actually are included in startrek.

Adding in non-existing races only makes it a non-startrek game... if the developers want this they should leave startrek and make a new mod on another game or even better try and make a game they want.

Also stop the asskissing at the ending of your postings.... seriously...

wtf are you thinking ? putting someone off to look good in the eyes of the developers because you think they are supreme beings ? (maybe they are the noxters themselves ?)

stop the asskissing please.... this is startrek....


Just because Optec and DOCa Cola are developing it doesn't mean they can just make whatever they want. They can try and force it but they will lose the mod to inactivity as many of the mods have done.

Also it wouldn't be ''pure startrek'' it would be a made up story that wouldn't make much sense.


If these noxters are going to end up in this mod at least give the option to set Normal Story and Fleetops Story which just enable the custom race's as i like all the other aspects of the game.


Dude, you are brave but wrong. I'm fine with your opinion as such but not with the content. Just to say that the dev team indeed can make whatever they want they have shown that their work is not comparable to the mods that have failed to satisfy the needs of the masses. As such this total conversion is a success story from the very beginnings until today and it will be in future time. Not because they put races, ships and lots of other stuff into the game. It's simply because they put quality into it. Such a good quality that even print magazines have written articles about it. I'm not arrogant when saying that, it's just a simple fact that whatever they did, it was done at a very professional level and with a huge portion of thought, continuity and patience what most other modder teams lacked.

So if it comes to deside whether they put in a race, known or unknown in the Star Trek universe,  this is completely up to them and if they decided to put in Bully's "Star Ship Surprise" they could. But they are not dumb. They create what they feel is right and, damn, this is the reason why they are so successfull. They give a shit on the religious Star Trek whiners that complain about every single nit pit that has never seen the light of the camera.
Ever thought if exactly this is the right thing? You sound like there's a person or organisation somewhere that has the single right to say whether this is Star Trek or not. I tell you it's the right of those who work out concepts in the spirit of Gene's idea and then work it out like it was in their imagination. So please don't limit our own creativity and trust in the sens for a Trek feeling the devs have. They really do. Let them create something which make the Trek universe even more appealing than it is anyways.
Just because Paramount own the commercial rights doesn't mean they own the idea. What a releaf.
posted on July 1st, 2009, 6:22 pm
Seriously, If you guys don't like it, don't play it, Don't post about it, and keep any rude remarks to your self.  You only make a fool of your self when your criticism isn't constructive.  It only tears down the the hard work of the Admins, and you ruin it for everyone else.

Any way, Personally, I can't wate for the next up date.  Keep up the hardwork team, and don't let these guys remarks effect you. :thumbsup:
posted on July 1st, 2009, 6:29 pm
Hear hear, Adm. Zaxxon  :thumbsup:
posted on July 1st, 2009, 6:30 pm
some star trek fans are so guard of canon.. hi look at the good side, at least we are not star wars fans:lol:
posted on July 1st, 2009, 6:31 pm
Okay. I am a younger fan of star trek. Many people here grew up on TNG and TOS. I grew up on DS9 and Voyager and more recently Enterprise, and you know what? The ST franchise needs NEW stuff. You don't like it, Mikel? Tough! No-body particularly gives a crap one way or the other, because with the skills of this dev team will make sure it works out.

If you think I am ass-kissing, go and choke on alien wang. Noxter alien wang, that is.

Do you realise how patient the developers are being with you? They could kick and ban you for this flame war, because you are arguing with their plans for the future of FO. You are insulting the very core of this mod, the devs. I will swear, I would ban you 10x over for stirring all this shit up.

Star Trek was made in Gene Roddenberry's imagination. It's episodes and films all have a different effect on everyone and Star Trek is different in everyone's mind. I LOVE the obscure races of Star Trek, because that is what the core of Star Trek is: Exploration and Interaction with however millions of alien races there are, be them insectoid, organic, cybernetic, primate, arborial, avian, or aquatic. And be it War, peace, subjugation, oppression, occupation, integration, negotiation, combat or diplomacy. You, my freind, must learn to evolve.

So in conclusion, if I hear one more degoratory comment, one more skit, one more letter out of line and I'll be starting a poll to get you banned. I reckon it would not be long before you were banned.

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Doca, Optec, Fleet Ops Staff. Ignore all the comments of the dimwit who has made these remarks. Hell, even ignore people's comments to them. Prune all the posts that have no relevance to this thread.

Everyone else, quit the derail please or I shall warm the chilly air around you with some red-hot curses.

Apologies for anyone offended by this post.

-Delta
posted on July 1st, 2009, 6:35 pm
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posted on July 1st, 2009, 6:56 pm
Posting ones opinion about a topic, or critics is always welcome. For in-depth discussions however, it would be best to open up a new topic. Question can be answered much better there and open points can be discussed. The important thing is to keep everything on a polite level. Of course we are all humans and not droids (got ya Data!) but lets try to keep this post clean of insults or rude language :)
posted on July 1st, 2009, 6:58 pm
I created a new topic (with poll): Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations - Noxter-Discussion where you are able to discuss about the including of the Noxter. In this thread is the question, how the Noxter should be created and which abilities should they have.
posted on July 1st, 2009, 7:15 pm
in the intrest of getting this conversation back on the noxter. What if some of the noxters weapons targeted the crew of opposing starships instead of the hull or shields. With the exception of borg their are few weapons that target crew.
posted on July 1st, 2009, 7:18 pm
or maybe ones that cause sub-systems specific damage but relatively little hull damage. Imagine the derelicts from a full scale encounter :D
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