The Trade Dock

posted on March 11th, 2013, 6:10 am

Im curious about the different vessels used for the convoy vessels, has me wondering if we may see the miranda class or the shelley/curry filling in from time to time?

I suspect they'll be some of those "map object" ships.

If the devs wanted to troll the heck out of the Feds, one of them would be the Prometheus

posted on March 11th, 2013, 6:55 pm

Now thats more like it! You'll have to commit a task force to the convoy which will make things more fun.

posted on March 11th, 2013, 9:12 pm

I honestly don't think that Starfleet would relegate a state-of-the-art combat vessel to convoy duty hauling cargo... However...it is possible that when you attack convoys they could have escorts..if the cargo is valuable enough the convoys could have ships to protect them..that you would have to take out first..such as the episode of DS9 when Worf was in command of the Defiant and the Klingons attacked a supply convoy that he was in charge of guarding...

Hence you might see the Prometheus guarding a convoy...

posted on March 11th, 2013, 9:58 pm

I don't think 'Prometheus Freighter' was actually meant as a serious idea ...

posted on March 11th, 2013, 10:20 pm

I don't think 'Prometheus Freighter' was actually meant as a serious idea ...

Correct. Just a kindly-meant humorous swipe at the devs who are insistent that the class will only be included as a "map object" (ie, will never be seen or usable in a MP match).

posted on March 11th, 2013, 11:27 pm

Just a tiny question: how are you going to scort a warp-in? You don't know the point of entry in the map! or it's a fixed position, how is the mechanic of the whole thing? I kinf of understood that convoys can only be attacked in the docking station or I am wrong?

posted on March 11th, 2013, 11:30 pm

Will you be able to board these convoy vessels and steal them from the fed player for your own supply uses?? That ought to drive the feds crazy.

posted on March 12th, 2013, 12:41 am

Didn't the original Armada 2 have trading stations or am I thinking of another game. I haven't played vanilla STA2 in hundreds of years.

posted on March 12th, 2013, 1:49 am

@Nathanj: Stock A2 does have the trading station for all races except the Borg. All races except the Borg even have cargo ships, it was only disabled in FleetOps but now they are bringing it back, except right now it seems only for the Federation.

posted on March 13th, 2013, 8:17 pm

Hurrah Federation trade :-) . Really looking forward to the next iteration of this modification. Gotta to ask though what happens if another faction captures/assimilates the trade station? Will trade ships continue to turn up? I think that kind of bug was mentioned when people reactivated the armada 2 stock files in this modification. Plus the post mentions ships being vulnerable when they trading cargo. So again can these ships be captured/assimilated?

posted on March 13th, 2013, 9:36 pm

Will you be able to board these convoy vessels and steal them from the fed player for your own supply uses?? That ought to drive the feds crazy.

If the Fed player doesn't build their Trade Dock under their Starbase guns, or a similarly heavily-defended area, then they deserve whatever indignities can be heaped on them.

@Nathanj: Stock A2 does have the trading station for all races except the Borg. All races except the Borg even have cargo ships, it was only disabled in FleetOps but now they are bringing it back, except right now it seems only for the Federation.

I'm sure that other races will have similar mechanisms put in place. The main win for the Feds is that it gives them a drip-feed of Supply, something they've lacked before now.

posted on March 14th, 2013, 4:26 am

If another faction captures the Trade Station, they get a free station - but nope, it won't suddenly call in supply convoys . Just because you captured my Eraudi type yard doesn't mean you can start building my Defiants.

If on the other hand you capture a convoy, it'll start to offload those resources - you captured it, you own whatever resources were on board . Something to think about when assimilating your neighbors.

Again, despite the amount of talk about A2 trading, FO trading stuff doesn't share anything with the Stock A2 features other than the name .

posted on March 14th, 2013, 7:30 am

@Dominus_Noctis: Will it work inside other mods like ones using the STA2_Classic Mod or other mods within the Mods Directory?

posted on March 14th, 2013, 8:26 am

Thanks Dominus_Noctis. How about the Borg though? If they capture a cargo vessel, well it simply under Borg control, to be send to say a mixed tech dock for disassembly?

posted on March 14th, 2013, 2:58 pm

hahhahaahahahaha.... Finally trading is back. I'm just afraid what will happen when you lose a fleet of warp-in vessels now. That will most likely kill you since it will cripple your economy really hard.