the corrected Galaxy Class and starship seperation
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posted on January 2nd, 2009, 7:22 am
Last edited by Anonymous on January 2nd, 2009, 7:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
Awww, did I hurt someones feelings. How cute
No, you didn't; Don't humiliate yourself any further. :fish:
And check your arse to see if it got bigger from sitting on it so much.
posted on January 2nd, 2009, 7:32 am
Just to let you guys know...every time I mention the Excelsior I am referring to the Excelsior II...not the first one...I'm not that crazy. T_T.
posted on January 2nd, 2009, 7:34 am
How crazy are you? 

posted on January 2nd, 2009, 7:40 am
Extremely, and I would just like to tell you I am glad that us two intelligent people are not at eachother's throats for our disagreement =].
If for no reason other than the cost of 1000+ lives, ...think of all the insurance policies the federation would have to pay out! (But they don't have money!?).
But yes, the Galaxy should perhaps get a tiny boost, but even if you use the 'Venture' refit, it would get higher output phasers and better coverage (due to ventral phasers). However it hasn't made the jump to Quantum Torpedoes nor Type 11/12 Phasers. (As far as we know). And I think it is an awesome 'Explorer' like the design states and is very good at defending itself...but it is not much of a warship. And thus it makes sense to bring it into combat as a 'support' or for it to respond to a distress call, I love the system the game has now.
If for no reason other than the cost of 1000+ lives, ...think of all the insurance policies the federation would have to pay out! (But they don't have money!?).
But yes, the Galaxy should perhaps get a tiny boost, but even if you use the 'Venture' refit, it would get higher output phasers and better coverage (due to ventral phasers). However it hasn't made the jump to Quantum Torpedoes nor Type 11/12 Phasers. (As far as we know). And I think it is an awesome 'Explorer' like the design states and is very good at defending itself...but it is not much of a warship. And thus it makes sense to bring it into combat as a 'support' or for it to respond to a distress call, I love the system the game has now.
posted on January 2nd, 2009, 7:54 am
Last edited by Anonymous on January 2nd, 2009, 7:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
Thanks 
Personally, I like Snapshot's idea to give the saucer a troop transport ability similar to the Klingon ships. This would be a useful feature considering the sheer volume of the saucer section.
You're right, If the Enterprise D didn't have all those families aboard they could cut back on insurance policies, medical supplies, living quarters and it would have much more capacity for weapons, shield generators and troops.
In an alternate timeline, Tasha Yar did say the Enterprise could carry 6,000 troops. That coupled with an anti-matter spread to slow and confuse the enemy would make it an exceptional addition to the game. BTW, she was on a recent episode of Prison Break. Interesting to know what the cast is doing after the TNG years.
The stardrive could have increased maneuverability and faster firing rates for the phasers and torpedoes. In addition to saucer separation, the Galaxy as a whole could an ability to temporarily increase targeting abilities for other ships in the vicinity (similar to Home One in Empire at War) since it is a command ship.

Personally, I like Snapshot's idea to give the saucer a troop transport ability similar to the Klingon ships. This would be a useful feature considering the sheer volume of the saucer section.
You're right, If the Enterprise D didn't have all those families aboard they could cut back on insurance policies, medical supplies, living quarters and it would have much more capacity for weapons, shield generators and troops.
In an alternate timeline, Tasha Yar did say the Enterprise could carry 6,000 troops. That coupled with an anti-matter spread to slow and confuse the enemy would make it an exceptional addition to the game. BTW, she was on a recent episode of Prison Break. Interesting to know what the cast is doing after the TNG years.
The stardrive could have increased maneuverability and faster firing rates for the phasers and torpedoes. In addition to saucer separation, the Galaxy as a whole could an ability to temporarily increase targeting abilities for other ships in the vicinity (similar to Home One in Empire at War) since it is a command ship.
posted on January 2nd, 2009, 8:01 am
Haha. Please don't say you want the Galaxy X in game too
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posted on January 2nd, 2009, 12:13 pm
ray320 wrote:and this comes directly from the techical manuel
The technical manuals are not canon - even your source for all this copy pasting admits that.
posted on January 2nd, 2009, 3:21 pm
USS Constellation wrote:Thanks
Personally, I like Snapshot's idea to give the saucer a troop transport ability similar to the Klingon ships. This would be a useful feature considering the sheer volume of the saucer section.
You're right, If the Enterprise D didn't have all those families aboard they could cut back on insurance policies, medical supplies, living quarters and it would have much more capacity for weapons, shield generators and troops.
In an alternate timeline, Tasha Yar did say the Enterprise could carry 6,000 troops. That coupled with an anti-matter spread to slow and confuse the enemy would make it an exceptional addition to the game. BTW, she was on a recent episode of Prison Break. Interesting to know what the cast is doing after the TNG years.
The stardrive could have increased maneuverability and faster firing rates for the phasers and torpedoes. In addition to saucer separation, the Galaxy as a whole could an ability to temporarily increase targeting abilities for other ships in the vicinity (similar to Home One in Empire at War) since it is a command ship.
Actually it was me with the idea of the saucer section marines but whatever

Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations - the corrected Galaxy Class and starship seperation
posted on January 2nd, 2009, 4:44 pm
Oh then here; a cookie for you!
posted on January 2nd, 2009, 6:07 pm
I think separation could work if it has a real purpose. The saucer having boarding capability would be interesting. The engineering section having faster firing rates would make sense as there would be less power distributed to the saucer systems. And the galaxy as a whole having some sort of morale effect on fleets would fit as well. But I still think it should warp in, especially if it gets these abilities. Among other reasons stated by other people, it should be a pleasant surprise when one shows up.
As far as stats go, I can see a Galaxy and Excelsior II having roughly equal firepower: Galaxy has more, Ex2 has better. After all, they didn't call it an Excelsior [insert name] refit. It is the Excelsior II, a completely new class of ship based on the design style of the original. Aside from it's appearance, we can't tell what similarities it actually has with it's predecessor. So since the FO team designed the ship, whatever they do regarding it's abilities is automatically fact.
I guess what I am trying to say is that I don't have any problem with how the Galaxy is implemented already, but some changes would be okay if they didn't ruin the balance.
As far as stats go, I can see a Galaxy and Excelsior II having roughly equal firepower: Galaxy has more, Ex2 has better. After all, they didn't call it an Excelsior [insert name] refit. It is the Excelsior II, a completely new class of ship based on the design style of the original. Aside from it's appearance, we can't tell what similarities it actually has with it's predecessor. So since the FO team designed the ship, whatever they do regarding it's abilities is automatically fact.
I guess what I am trying to say is that I don't have any problem with how the Galaxy is implemented already, but some changes would be okay if they didn't ruin the balance.

posted on January 2nd, 2009, 6:47 pm
The Constitution Refit is a compelely new ship and they called that a refit, why not the Excelsior-II? The Galaxy Class could at least be faster, the one from the show didn't crawl like a snail, even in combat it was fast.
posted on January 2nd, 2009, 8:35 pm
I think that the Galaxy should be left with the Values that it has, but also as a sort of durable Venture Class. It's sensor range should be increased, because, like everyone says, it's an exploration-specialized vessel!
posted on January 3rd, 2009, 1:30 am
Unleash Mayhem wrote:Actually it was me with the idea of the saucer section marines but whatever
Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations - the corrected Galaxy Class and starship seperation
yeah lol i just said they could carry troops, it wasnt my idea to add them to the saurcer section.
And it wouldnt be hard to refit the interior, cause ships as you have heard can jettison sections, they would just remove the section and replace it.
posted on January 3rd, 2009, 2:00 am
Awesome I get a cookie, now how likely do you think it is that my idea will be implemented? It would certainly give the galaxy a nice role in the fleet, using its canonicaly massive volume as an advantage, although 6000 troops might be a bit steep 
The overall galaxy should have a slightly increased boarding strength, and then give the saucer and even greater strength and the stardrive back to normal but with slightly improved rate of fire or maneuverability.
This is just thoughts straight ti keyboard so it could be a crap idea, whadya think?

The overall galaxy should have a slightly increased boarding strength, and then give the saucer and even greater strength and the stardrive back to normal but with slightly improved rate of fire or maneuverability.
This is just thoughts straight ti keyboard so it could be a crap idea, whadya think?
posted on January 3rd, 2009, 2:16 am
okay then the galaxy should at least have better firepower then the excelsior, and better defense then the defiant
@daton, the technical manuel is a perfectly good soure, and when i use memory alpha which is definetly cannon or any other source, you say that its not true, well here is some news it is true, the stuff that your babling about isnt
@daton, the technical manuel is a perfectly good soure, and when i use memory alpha which is definetly cannon or any other source, you say that its not true, well here is some news it is true, the stuff that your babling about isnt
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