the corrected Galaxy Class and starship seperation

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 2:34 am

okay then the galaxy should at least have better firepower then the excelsior, and better defense then the defiant

Firstly, from memory alpha:

'While the Technical Manuals themselves are not canon, they are Memory Alpha permitted resources. '

It does have better firepower than the Excelsior.

The Excelsior II however is far greater than an Excelsior or even the Lakota refit! (At least defense wise). The galaxy class does not have particularly powerful weapons. Photon Torpedoes and Type X phasers, which are now 'standard' rather than cutting edge. It is fast, more crew efficient and has Quantum Torpedoes and perhaps even type XI or XII phasers! It's a capable combat ship. The Galaxy is not far off in firepower and is superior in defense. But the earlier proposed values of 40 and 45 or whatever are ridiculous!

The Galaxy class is a sturdy vessel, no doubt! But the Defiant class has Ablative Armour! As well as both Quantum Torpedoes and Pulse Phasers. I seriously don't see where this debate is getting steam.

[Anonymous]

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 11:34 am

Last edited by Anonymous on January 3rd, 2009, 4:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.

During the Dominion War, the Galaxy Class starship, including the USS Venture received shield, hull, and weapons upgrades. A visual inspection shows that the USS Venture was upgraded with two nacelle phaser strips; Galaxy Wings 9-1 and 9-3 simply blew away a Cardassian Galor Class Destroyer with ease. Several other Galaxy Class ships were seen with darkened spines and whitish deflectors which may suggest additional refits (War Galaxy). After the USS Odyssey was destroyed, StarFleet realized the weakness around the deflector dish and reinforced it with additional hull armor. It wasn't ablative armor, but they still got an upgrade.

Now lets focus on actually implementing these improvements into the game.

So the Galaxy as a whole would have slightly more offensive value than the Excelsior-II but less defense than the Defiant. It would retain the type 3 torpedoes except it wouldn't reduce firing rate or shield recharge, it would have some sort of moral or tactical boost for the fleet, it would be able to saucer separate, and have a higher scan range because it is an Explorer type vessel.

The Galaxy Stardrive would also have the type 3 torpedo ability, gain an increase in maneuverability, and faster firing rates for phasers and torpedoes.

The Galaxy Saucer might gain a slight increase in maneuverability, have an aft torpedo launcher, and house marines with some type of troop transport special ability for fleet support.

     Galaxy Class

      34 Offensive Value
      36 Defensive Value
      17 System Value
           

           
• Phaser
             
• Photon Torpedo
             
• Type 3 Torpedoes
  Can target up to 3 separate targets simultaneously
             
• Coordinate Fleet (passive)
  All ships gain a 25% increase in targeting efficiency 
  when Galaxy Class is present
             
• Saucer Separate
  Can separate the ship into two independently operable
  halfs
             

     
      Galaxy Stardrive

      30 Offensive Value
      35 Defensive Value
      15 System Value
             

             
• Phaser
               
• Photon Torpedo
               
• Type 3 Torpedoes
  Can target up to 3 separate targets simultaneously
               
• Movement Boost (passive)
  Stardrive receives a 40% boost in speed when
  separated
               
• Increased Rate of Fire (passive)
  Stardrive receives a 20% increase in rate of fire
  when separated
               

        Galaxy Saucer

        23 Offensive Value
        20 Defensive Value
        14 System Value
       

           
• Phaser
             
• Aft Torpedo
               
• [Insert name of Troop Transport Ability]
           

How does this look so far? Please feel free to fill out this model, or point out any additional suggestions you may have. I'd really love for the community to contribute.

           

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 11:35 am

With those stats why don't they just never have the hull unseperated...

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 11:39 am

Looks pretty well thought out. The saucer certainly looks like it could be more useful than the old Iwo Jima Class, though it should have some kind of limited Phaser array.

With those stats why don't they just never have the hull unseperated...

The saucer seems unarmed and some people might not like seperation, so only some would use it.

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 12:11 pm

The saucer seems unarmed and some people might not like seperation, so only some would use it.

Where does it get its offensive value from then?


Other than that, for me those stats for the galaxy class (unseperated) are acceptable, only if you limit the special bonuses a bit Or make it more credit costly.

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 12:42 pm

It doesn't list any weapons, aside from the marines.

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 12:50 pm

I know it doesnt, but in order for it to have an offensive point at all, it needs something lol.
Im sure he forgot to write it has phasers

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 12:58 pm

And he even mentions the aft torpedo launcher so I don't think its meant to be unarmed.

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 1:23 pm

Good point, though Hazard Team could probably make up those points by themselves.

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 2:31 pm

Those Galaxy stats are ridiculously high.

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 2:32 pm

Thank you. I thought I was the only one who saw this?

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 2:41 pm

Ah, the resident Galaxy-hater is back.

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 2:47 pm

Those Galaxy stats are ridiculously high.

Insert Quote
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who saw this?

Well IDK, what are its stats right now? I can only maybe see a prob with the offensive stat (as the sovie has 36), but defense seems reasonable to me.
Also those 3 seperate targets is a bit strange. I dont ever recall a Galaxy firing at 3 targets at once (though Im sure someone will correct me on that )

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 2:53 pm

Right now, I cannot remember a time it multi-targetted. It wouldn't be strange if it could though.

posted on January 3rd, 2009, 3:38 pm

Surely separating the galaxy class would split its offensive value in two ? I mean it doesn't grow extra torp tubes while separated so surely the weapons are split over the two sections. and I don't think the galaxy should be quite that powerful personally I think that the feds are already an overpowered race as it is and the galaxy class was an overgrown science vessel not a war ship.

And saucer separation serves no purpose in the game either it was used in an emergency to evacuate the civilians the saucer basically had no weapons after being separated if I remember right as most of it's power supply was used to keep the shields up as it had no warp core. I don't understand why people want it it's not going to increase the effectiveness of the ship, nor will it provide some game play bonus it would just be a waste.

The galaxy class deserves nothing more than a small increase in defensive and offensive values.

Anyway that's just my 2.9156 pence.